Transferring a rifle/handgun right before turning 18/21

[halifax]

Most states don't have a waiting period. Doesn't matter to the ATF anyway and you won't find an FFL willing to risk their license. If you really need to buy it now have a parent/grandparent get it for you then transfer on your birthday. You can even get a handgun this way legally when you turn 18.

How would I be risking my license if a firearm arrived at my business and a month later a legal aged person came in to claim it?

[oogabooga]

I'm sure you know the following info, but might have just misinterpreted the posts:

It doesn't take a month to ship a firearm.

The firearm can sit at the CA FFL for a finite amount of time, waiting for the buyer to pick it up. The buyer doesn't have to start the DROS the day that the firearm arrives at the CA FFL.

Most states don't have a waiting period. Doesn't matter to the ATF anyway and you won't find an FFL willing to risk their license. If you really need to buy it now have a parent/grandparent get it for you then transfer on your birthday. You can even get a handgun this way legally when you turn 18.

The fact that most states don't have waiting period doesn't matter since by the time one starts the "California waiting period," he will be of age, in this situation.

[halifax]

The fact that most states don't have waiting period doesn't matter since by the time one starts the "California waiting period," he will be of age, in this situation.

In fact, CA law has codified language that states the DROS is the "Application to Purchase" ; so, the purchase begins at the time of the DROS.

PC12071(b)(7)(F)

[FS00008]

You cant legally purchase a firearm until you're 18. Just because you haven't taken possession doesn't matter.

Specific statute and/or DOJ/ATF regs stating this please? I've always interpreted it as can't take possession until 18/21, not that you can't pay for it just prior to turning 18/21...

Also, the firearm (or whatever else) doesn't transfer possession until it is 100% paid for. So pay all but one dollar for it and pay that last dollar the day you start the DROS if it's really an issue.

[halifax]

Specific statute and/or DOJ/ATF regs stating this please? I've always interpreted it as can't take possession until 18/21.

Also, the firearm (or whatever else) doesn't transfer possession until it is 100% paid for. So pay all but one dollar for it and pay that last dollar the day you start the DROS if it's really an issue.

The BOE doesn't consider the sale to have taken place until the delivery has occurred. I know BOE isn't what this is about but their interpretation of "purchase" might have some weight and may be based on a germane precedent.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=200321

[oogabooga]

In fact, CA law has codified language that states the DROS is the "Application to Purchase" ; so, the purchase begins at the time of the DROS.

PC12071(b)(7)(F)

The BOE doesn't consider the sale to have taken place until the delivery has occurred. I know BOE isn't what this is about but their interpretation of "purchase" might have some weight and may be based on a germane precedent.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=200321

That seems pretty clear to me! Nobody else has been able to provide as clear evidence as you have, and the BOE reference seems very relevant for the reasons you have stated.

Would still be interested in more information about the subject.