MP5 Clone build legality?

[loveglocks]

I'd like to do a semi-auto MP5 clone build in CA but I have questions about legality...

The barrel being shorter than 16" and overall length being shorter than 26", can I slap on a brace and have it be sold to me as a pistol?

The barrel being shorter than 16" and overall length being shorter than 26", can I remove the stock completely and have a stock-less clone sold to me as a pistol?
Like this weapon: https://atlanticfirearms.com/9mm-pistol

Weapon's length with telescoping stock is 19" retracted, 27" extended, weapon's barrel is about 8", can I slap on a permanently attached 10" barrel extension and have it sold to me as a rifle? Can I keep the telescoping stock given it has fin-grip and magazine-locked?

I feel as if I need a PhD in this state just to buy a gun and not go to jail

[Djantlive]

Yeah no one will sell a new off-roster to you. You’d have to do it through a ppt in CA.

The barrel is threaded so that’s not CA compliant. It also needs to be maglocked like all other “pistols” such as mpx and AR9.

Quite frankly, I think mp5 is too heavy. I personally prefer mpx or copperhead.

You may want to also look into a pistol brace that accepts glock 17 and p320. I have a raider and it’s quite impressive in accuracy, concealment and light weight. Personally, I think it’s great for range and personal protection. You can wear it with a single sling under a jacket without imprinting. Can’t do the same with even a copperhead.

[sigstroker]

MP5 is 60's tech, all steel. MPX is current century.

[yacko]

The safest bet is to build it like an HK 94.

16 inch barrel and fixed stock.

featurless.

If the laws change, you can cut or swap the barrel.

[sigstroker]

Changing barrels in an HK is non-trivial iirc.

[loveglocks]

I believe the roster still applies. You would be building an “unsafe” pistol.

Oh yes of course, how criminal of me to even think about an mp5 style gun

[loveglocks]

MP5 is 60's tech, all steel. MPX is current century.

I agree, but regardless I am a sucker for tried-and-true, older platforms

[loveglocks]

Yeah no one will sell a new off-roster to you. You’d have to do it through a ppt in CA.

The barrel is threaded so that’s not CA compliant. It also needs to be maglocked like all other “pistols” such as mpx and AR9.

Quite frankly, I think mp5 is too heavy. I personally prefer mpx or copperhead.

You may want to also look into a pistol brace that accepts glock 17 and p320. I have a raider and it’s quite impressive in accuracy, concealment and light weight. Personally, I think it’s great for range and personal protection. You can wear it with a single sling under a jacket without imprinting. Can’t do the same with even a copperhead.

Interesting suggestions, thank you.
From what I understand, PPT is my option that's farthest from dropping soaps

[loveglocks]

The safest bet is to build it like an HK 94.

16 inch barrel and fixed stock.

featurless.

If the laws change, you can cut or swap the barrel.

Yea HK94 route is what I figured is the safest,

but one can dream about laws changing.

Thinking about becoming a Texan...

[sigstroker]

Interesting suggestions, thank you.
From what I understand, PPT is my option that's farthest from dropping soaps

Or marry someone with an out-of-state kid over 21.

[Quiet]

Under CA laws...

A firearm with a less than 16" barrel length is considered a "handgun".
^So, CA unsafe handgun laws and CA assault weapons laws for pistols and CA generally prohibited weapons laws will apply to it.

All MP5 style semi-auto pistols are considered off-Roster assault weapons.

In order to be CA legal, they must operate using a fixed 10 or less round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or that is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

Even if modified to be CA legal, it is still considered an off-Roster handgun.

Which means, CA legal versions can only be legally transferred via exemption (LEO, PPT, etc).

Because of CA self-made firearm laws, a MP5 style pistol must be made as a dimensionally compliant bolt-action/break-open single-shot pistol and, while in CA, it must remain configured as such in order to remain CA legal.

[walmart_ar15]

The safest bet is to build it like an HK 94.

16 inch barrel and fixed stock.

featurless.

If the laws change, you can cut or swap the barrel.

Ah NO. Unless you apply for a SBR stamp. Once a rifle, always a rifle. It is Fed territory so it's not like u can do that even outside of CA.

[2shotjoe]

You'll need a closed bolt conversion also. Maybe.

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[sigstroker]

Ah NO. Unless you apply for a SBR stamp. Once a rifle, always a rifle. It is Fed territory so it's not like u can do that even outside of CA.

He would be starting from a pistol.

[walmart_ar15]

He would be starting from a pistol.

Not in CA, as OP is looking for options in CA.