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[brookswrld]

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[hunterb]

[ar15barrels]

1. Why is a closed trunk (even unlocked) considered a locked container in CA considering that anyone can open your trunk?

How can "anyone" open your trunk?
Do you mean forcibly with a crowbar and prying implements?
Because they can use those same methods to get into any locked container too.

Locked is locked.
I lock my vehicle when I leave it.
Nobody can get into the vehicle without forcing entry.

[BillyMays]

1) Because you and the passengers can't readily access the firearm. The point of the locked container law is to prevent you from transporting firearms as if they are your CCW. Although I agree with hunterb that the legislators are ignorant and therefore the "reason" really doesn't matter.

2) I don't know the definite answer, but realistically you will face charges or at the very least get hassled by LEO for doing this.

Apply for CCW! The recent supreme court decision has made this a favorable time to apply!

[ar15barrels]

What if you leave your car unlocked?
Anyone can open the trunk.
They can't police that.

What if you left your locked container unlocked?
They can police that if they find you doing that.

[RP1911]

Loaded mag can be in same locked container box, trunk etc but not inserted even partially in the gun.

[ER308]

Can my ammo/magazines be in the same locked container as my handgun?
California has no laws prohibiting ammunition or loaded magazines from being in the same container as the firearm as long as there is no ammo loaded into the gun. The question is, can you readily access the ammunition?

https://www.californiacarry.org/vehicles.html

[BillyMays]

The reason I ask re the loaded gun definition is because my glock box fits 9 loaded mags and my G26 nicely, but not the 10th mag. Only if I insert my 10th mag (but not fully) does it all fit perfectly 👌🏼

So why not just insert the last mag unloaded??

[otteray]

1. Why is a closed trunk (even unlocked) considered a locked container in CA considering that anyone can open your trunk?

2. Is a loaded magazine placed in the handgun yet not fully inserted (or snapped-in) still considered "unloaded" in CA, since obviously the gun cannot be fired.

Your premise of your first question is incorrect; the trunk must be locked:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

For question #2, chew on this for awhile: People vs Clark (1996)

https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/4th/45/1147.html

[C Neely]

ziplock baggie with a suitcase lock through the top

there, it's a locked container now

[S.A.]

Otteray, thanks for the caselaw, I'll check it out. However in a traffic stop scenario, I'm pulled over, my car is running, anyone can open my trunk. It's only "locked" when I leave the vehicle and lock the car.

You argue with stop signs also?

[otteray]

Otteray, thanks for the caselaw, I'll check it out. However in a traffic stop scenario, I'm pulled over, my car is running, anyone can open my trunk. It's only "locked" when I leave the vehicle and lock the car.

Then your trunk ain't locked. So there you are. Must be in a locked container. I'd guess that if you pulled over to get out and ask directions or whatever and a kid stole your gun because your truck is unlocked; you'd be in deep doo doo.

[otteray]

ziplock baggie with a suitcase lock through the top

there, it's a locked container now

Pursuant to California Penal Code section 16850, the term "locked container" means a secure container that is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment.
My god. That is the dumbest answer ever posted on Calguns ever.
No.

[johnthomas]

My trunk can be accessed via the back seat. Anyone sitting in the back seat can pull one side or the other of the back seat and access the trunk.

[-hanko]

What if you leave your car unlocked? Anyone can open the trunk. They can't police that.

And if a loaded magazine is only partially inserted into the gun (not fully) is that considered loaded? If so, why?

What if monkeys fly out of your butt?

Lock your trunk.

Iirc, the mag has to be fully inserted into the weapon to be considered loaded.

Why are you pissing around with what-if's??