Question about AR's?

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

I have a couple AR's. Both were bought with Bullet buttons. Both were bought futureless.
Now I'm told there not California legal. Two gun stores told me two different things to make them legal.
So I'm asking if I put magazine locks on rifle's will this make them legal?
Or what's the best way to make them legal?
Thanks for any help.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

37 people looked. Not one Post. I guess I'm not the only one confused.

[Toyman321]

If both guns were bought featureless, why did they have bullet buttons on them?

[OlderThanDirt]

[G-forceJunkie]

Featureless rifles would not have come with bullet buttons. So which is is, did you buy a featurless rifle or did you by a bullet button gun?

If you bought a bullet button gun, it is now an assault weapon and you were required to register it or convert it to featureless several years ago.

If it is featurless, you are legal.

If it is bullet buttoned, you have already broken the law. Change the bullet button to a modern fixed magazine device that requires the action to be dissasembled to remove the mag would bring it up to legal configuration.

It it is featureless AND has a bullet button, it is legal, but stupid. Featureless rifles do not require a bullet button, so remove it and put a standard mag release on it.

My suggestion is to make sure they are featureless, or modern magazine locked, stop asking gun stores for legal advice (they are wrong 90% of the time) and delete this thread.

[Tere_Hanges]

If they had bullet buttons and you possessed them before 1/1/17, you had to register them as assault weapons or convert to either featureless or fixed mag by 6/30/18. If you didnt register or convert, then you are in possession of an unregistered assault weapon. Seperate the upper from the lower immediately while you figure out what to do to be compliant. Your options now are to convert to featureless or fixed magazine.

I recommend you consult a competent firearms attorney familiar with CA gun laws.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/bullet-button-assault-weapon

[ar15barrels]

I have a couple AR's. Both were bought with Bullet buttons. Both were bought futureless.
Now I'm told there not California legal. Two gun stores told me two different things to make them legal.
So I'm asking if I put magazine locks on rifle's will this make them legal?
Or what's the best way to make them legal?
Thanks for any help.

37 people looked.
Not one Post.
I guess I'm not the only one confused.

Your first post is very confusing.

I have no idea what futureless is.
Did you mean to type featureless?

A featureless semi-auto centerfire rifle did not need a bullet button.
A featureless semi-auto centerfire rifle does not need a fixed magazine.
Bullet buttons were a "fixed mag" configuration until the laws changed.
Bullet buttons no longer meet the definition of "fixed magazine".

If your rifles are featureless, they don't need bullet buttons OR a fixed magazine.
If your rifles are featureless, they are legal.

No responses because your post contradicts itself and we don't actually know what you have so it's not possible to comment.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

Sorry if you guys don't understand. One rifle was ppt in 2019 it came and was Drosed with pined stock. Bullet button thread protector. Fin grip.

Other was Drosed a lower in 2022 BB. Has A2 stock I put on. Fin grip. Upper had flash hider I changed to muzzle brake.

I got both rifles with bb's.

All I want to do is be legal.


Don't know why I'm getting a hard time.
Sam ocean boy.
I just want to have my rifles legal.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

Thanks AR-15 barrels.

[ar15barrels]

Sorry if you guys don't understand. One rifle was ppt in 2019 it came and was Drosed with pined stock. Bullet button thread protector. Fin grip.

Other was Drosed a lower in 2022 BB. Has A2 stock I put on. Fin grip. Upper had flash hider I changed to muzzle brake.

I got both rifles with bb's.

All I want to do is be legal.


Don't know why I'm getting a hard time.
Sam ocean boy.
I just want to have my rifles legal.

Get rid of the bullet buttons and use standard magazine releases with your featureless rifles.
The bullet buttons would only confuse a law enforcement officer into thinking your gun is possibly illegal because it has a bullet button but is not registered as a bullet button assault weapon because only bullet button assault weapons have bullet buttons anymore.

That's not illegal, but with how the laws are worded, you don't want to confuse anyone so make your rifles more obviously legal.

[Quiet]

Starting 01-01-2017, "bullet button" style devices are considered a type of magazine release that does not create a legal fixed magazine.

[kcheung2]

The whole situation is odd. OP’s been around for 19 years, 5000+ posts, 350+ itrader feedback, and is familiar enough with OLLs, but then doesn’t understand something as rudimentary as making an AR legal?

[smoothy8500]

gun stores told me...

Well, this is usually the reason for any confusion....

[ARDude]

At least my AR with a bullet button, featureless setup and a fixed mag is legal. And I only use 5 round mags....to be safe.

OP, just follow Randalls (ar15barrels)advice, you'll be good.

[Bobby Ricigliano]