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  • morrcarr67
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2010
    • 14927

    Could get a ruling on the JT grip

    Feel free to move if in the wrong place.

    I just saw this on FB. It looks like someone has been arrested in San Diego county and they are calling these AW.

    Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

    Originally posted by Erion929
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    MountainLion
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 491

    Doesn't have to be about the JT grip. Could be about flash hider, or second fore grip, or collapsing stock. It could even be that they were maglocked and had a large capacity mag installed.
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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11745

      Originally posted by MountainLion
      Doesn't have to be about the JT grip. Could be about flash hider, or second fore grip, or collapsing stock. It could even be that they were maglocked and had a large capacity mag installed.
      - We can only see one muzzle which has a brake.
      - We see only one front grip, it is a angled type and legal under Fed and State law.
      - I see telescoping stocks that are likely pinned in their almost longest position.
      Why are they likely pinned to this length?
      Because they don't collapse so the guy bought a long enough case for them to fit into.
      - These appear to be Ca compliant featureless rifles which can legally use a 11+ round mag and don't need a mag lock.
      - With Freedom Week on the records, possession of hi-caps is only a nuisance confiscation these days.
      - The JT grip could come under scrutiny as the OP says.

      If the guy was messing with children, he's up the creek and every charge possible will be made against him, including false ones.

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      • #4
        bugsy714
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 2418

        Should be interesting to see being as how the DOJ conspicuously did not mention the JT featureless grip in the salt weapon shenanigans about that modified lower


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        • #5
          sbo80
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 2262

          I'll point out that "arrested for", in a press release, is not the same thing as "charges filed". So, remains to be seen how it shakes out.

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23420

            Originally posted by MountainLion
            Doesn't have to be about the JT grip. Could be about flash hider, or second fore grip, or collapsing stock. It could even be that they were maglocked and had a large capacity mag installed.
            But if I was a betting man, it is the JT grip. Those things are a bust.
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            • #7
              helpfuljack
              Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 186

              I'm guessing this had less to do with the actual configuration of the weapon and more to do with the opportunity to disarm a kiddie porn suspect, even if the grounds for confiscation were pretty dubious.

              I'm guessing the firearm charges are the least of his worries at the moment.

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              • #8
                ysr_racer
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 12014

                Originally posted by SkyHawk
                But if I was a betting man, it is the JT grip. Those things are a bust.
                What's wrong with the jt grip?

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                • #9
                  seaweedsoyboy
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                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 747

                  Originally posted by helpfuljack
                  I'm guessing this had less to do with the actual configuration of the weapon and more to do with the opportunity to disarm a kiddie porn suspect, even if the grounds for confiscation were pretty dubious.

                  I'm guessing the firearm charges are the least of his worries at the moment.
                  Have to assume that. Thousands of people, if not more, are using the JT grip as a compliance device on their featureless builds. If the charges are based on solely the grip, it would be pretty catastrophic if they are not dropped. Either way, I guess we'll find out. In the mean time... brb gotta go swap something out..
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                  • #10
                    OlderThanDirt
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                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5628

                    Originally posted by ysr_racer
                    What's wrong with the jt grip?
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                    • #11
                      morrcarr67
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 14927

                      My guess is that they will go over every aspect of these rifles. If no prohibited person in possession of an AW charges are added, it's good. If prohibited person in possession of an AW charges are added we'll have to wait to see what characteristics are in violation.

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                      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                      Originally posted by Erion929

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                      • #12
                        Uncivil Engineer
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1101

                        Originally posted by morrcarr67
                        My guess is that they will go over every aspect of these rifles. If no prohibited person in possession of an AW charges are added, it's good. If prohibited person in possession of an AW charges are added we'll have to wait to see what characteristics are in violation.

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                        It really doesn't matter. They are just going to use it as part of a charge stack to get him to accept a plea.

                        Unless it actually went to court, which almost never happens these days we will never know off it's legal or not.

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                        • #13
                          GunnEnvy
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 593

                          I thought I read a thread somewhere that someone unregistered their AW and submitted pics of his featureless rifle with the JT grips and it was approved. Gotta dig and find it.

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

                            Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
                            Originally posted by SkyHawk
                            But if I was a betting man, it is the JT grip. Those things are a bust.
                            What's wrong with the jt grip?
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                            • #15
                              SharedShots
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2021
                              • 2277

                              There won't be a ruling on the JT grip because there is no benefit to doing so.

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