Released after 28 days

[smokycuh]

Actually according some here on CG it is the choice of the FFL if they want to release . It is a debated topic . And taking your business elsewhere hopefully sends a message when combined with the many delayed to undetermined transactions that will certainly come after you.

[pacrat]

post time; ..... 05-10-2022, 1:30 AM

Yeah to be honest i really like their shop and i dont blame them. I blame the DOJ. But i will only be buying from FFL who release on undetermined from now on.

post time; ..... 05-10-2022, 1:44 AM

Deelayed i agree with you 100%
I remember seeing your post about changing your name to delayed as a reverse psychology type of thing hahaha


I started telling all my friends who are not on calguns to be aware of these dros delays and always ask the FFL before you pay

^^^ My Oh My, what a difference 14 minutes makes. ^^^

As member Deelayed noted,

Actually according some here on CG it is the choice of the FFL if they want to release . It is a debated topic .

Sadly true. Even some here on CG. Where one would believe that resistance to 2A infringements would be strongest. Choose to bow to the Goddess Kamala. Because it was her that FALSELY claimed that FFLs have such discretion. Back in 2014, when pc 28220 [4] was codified. Which created the "Undetermined Status" for DROS delays.

Every time this subject has come up for years. I've asked those same Kamala believers to prove their premise. None have managed to do so. Since it is a well known fact, that it is impossible to prove a negative.

Proper to blame DOJ for a delay based on their own incompetence. But the blame for refusal to release on an "undetermined status". Belongs squarely on the FFL for being a DICK. For not following the black letter of the law.

[foothillman]

As member Deelayed noted,



Sadly true. Even some here on CG. Where one would believe that resistance to 2A infringements would be strongest. Choose to bow to the Goddess Kamala. Because it was her that FALSELY claimed that FFLs have such discretion. Back in 2014, when pc 28220 [4] was codified. Which created the "Undetermined Status" for DROS delays.

Every time this subject has come up for years. I've asked those same Kamala believers to prove their premise. None have managed to do so. Since it is a well known fact, that it is impossible to prove a negative.

Proper to blame DOJ for a delay based on their own incompetence. But the blame for refusal to release on an "undetermined status". Belongs squarely on the FFL for being a DICK. For not following the black letter of the law.

100%

[p1smo]

Got my first delay ever today. Another guy was there to pick up 2 rifles he DROS'd at the same time. He got approved for one, delayed on the other.

Just to test things out I bought some ammo and had no issue, so I'd love for someone to explain that to me.

[Red9]

Got my first delay ever today. Another guy was there to pick up 2 rifles he DROS'd at the same time. He got approved for one, delayed on the other.

Just to test things out I bought some ammo and had no issue, so I'd love for someone to explain that to me.

Crazy DOJ. No sense at all[emoji2959].

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[Deelayed]

post time; ..... 05-10-2022, 1:30 AM



post time; ..... 05-10-2022, 1:44 AM



^^^ My Oh My, what a difference 14 minutes makes. ^^^

As member Deelayed noted,



Sadly true. Even some here on CG. Where one would believe that resistance to 2A infringements would be strongest. Choose to bow to the Goddess Kamala. Because it was her that FALSELY claimed that FFLs have such discretion. Back in 2014, when pc 28220 [4] was codified. Which created the "Undetermined Status" for DROS delays.

Every time this subject has come up for years. I've asked those same Kamala believers to prove their premise. None have managed to do so. Since it is a well known fact, that it is impossible to prove a negative.

Proper to blame DOJ for a delay based on their own incompetence. But the blame for refusal to release on an "undetermined status". Belongs squarely on the FFL for being a DICK. For not following the black letter of the law.

I support this

[Deelayed]

Got my first delay ever today. Another guy was there to pick up 2 rifles he DROS'd at the same time. He got approved for one, delayed on the other.

Just to test things out I bought some ammo and had no issue, so I'd love for someone to explain that to me.

From I have gathered the ammo "data base " is separate from the DOJ background check (which is also seperate from the federal background check .

[pacrat]

Got my first delay ever today. Another guy was there to pick up 2 rifles he DROS'd at the same time. He got approved for one, delayed on the other.

Just to test things out I bought some ammo and had no issue, so I'd love for someone to explain that to me.

From I have gathered the ammo "data base " is separate from the DOJ background check (which is also seperate from the federal background check .

It is my understanding that the $1 ammo check. Is a simple AFS query to confirm the buyer has a firearm registered to them in AFS.

If that is a bust, which often happens, since you can legally own dozens, if not more, guns in Ca with none in AFS. You have to pay for the $19 deep dive. Which is an actual BG check.

[Deelayed]

It is my understanding that the $1 ammo check. Is a simple AFS query to confirm the buyer has a firearm registered to them in AFS.

If that is a bust, which often happens, since you can legally own dozens, if not more, guns in Ca with none in AFS. You have to pay for the $19 deep dive. Which is an actual BG check.

I stand corrected.that sounds more accurate .

[p1smo]

It is my understanding that the $1 ammo check. Is a simple AFS query to confirm the buyer has a firearm registered to them in AFS.

If that is a bust, which often happens, since you can legally own dozens, if not more, guns in Ca with none in AFS. You have to pay for the $19 deep dive. Which is an actual BG check.

It seems I'm just another casualty of California's ****ery, because I've purchased several guns at this address, have REAL ID, and dotted all my i's and crossed my t's. Nothing on my end that would prevent a legal purchase.

[smokycuh]

It seems I'm just another casualty of California's ****ery, because I've purchased several guns at this address, have REAL ID, and dotted all my i's and crossed my t's. Nothing on my end that would prevent a legal purchase.

Yeah it is annoying/frustrating dealing with this garbage here in ca. our tax dollars at work lol.


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[p1smo]

Yeah it is annoying/frustrating dealing with this garbage here in ca. our tax dollars at work lol.


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My purchasing has slowed down the last couple years, and up until today I've been blissfully ignorant to this problem. Had no idea it's become such a common occurrence. The FFL I'm going through said roughly 15% of their customers get delayed now which is absolutely insane to me.

[Deelayed]

My purchasing has slowed down the last couple years, and up until today I've been blissfully ignorant to this problem. Had no idea it's become such a common occurrence. The FFL I'm going through said roughly 15% of their customers get delayed now which is absolutely insane to me.

I never was giving a chance or opportunity to vote on the majority of these ", enactments" it seems like I wake up in the morning there's a new infringement that was put into effect in the middle of the night . Almost like a politician gets an idea on Tuesday evening and by Wednesday morning it's law .

[smokycuh]

Released after 28 days

My purchasing has slowed down the last couple years, and up until today I've been blissfully ignorant to this problem. Had no idea it's become such a common occurrence. The FFL I'm going through said roughly 15% of their customers get delayed now which is absolutely insane to me.

That is just ridiculous and straight up wrong
15%!!


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[smokycuh]

I never was giving a chance or opportunity to vote on the majority of these ", enactments" it seems like I wake up in the morning there's a new infringement that was put into effect in the middle of the night . Almost like a politician gets an idea on Tuesday evening and by Wednesday morning it's law .

Hahaha another new way to screw us over each day


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