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  • aeronaut
    Banned
    • Mar 2022
    • 86

    Buyer was denied - next steps?

    My friend (seller) has a buyer that was denied by DOJ. This was the seller's 5th PPT of the year.

    Buyer never received the denial letter - suspected lost in mail by USPS. Buyer tried calling DOJ for more information on the denial letter and reason for denial, but DOJ would not discuss with him.

    Buyer wants to re-DROS the firearm, and if denied again, hopes that the denial letter will arrive with next steps.

    Would this put the seller over the 5 yearly transaction limit?

    Is re-DROSing the best option for the buyer, or are there other ways of investigating the denial?
  • #2
    peppermintman
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1943

    Originally posted by aeronaut
    My friend (seller) has a buyer that was denied by DOJ. This was the seller's 5th PPT of the year.

    Buyer never received the denial letter - suspected lost in mail by USPS. Buyer tried calling DOJ for more information on the denial letter and reason for denial, but DOJ would not discuss with him.

    Buyer wants to re-DROS the firearm, and if denied again, hopes that the denial letter will arrive with next steps.

    Would this put the seller over the 5 yearly transaction limit?

    Is re-DROSing the best option for the buyer, or are there other ways of investigating the denial?

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    • #3
      Oceanbob
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2010
      • 12720

      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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      • #4
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        Again, calling will get you NO INFORMATION.

        Bob
        May the Bridges I burn light the way.

        Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

        Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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        • #5
          aeronaut
          Banned
          • Mar 2022
          • 86

          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          DOJ will never discuss these matters over a phone call. They don’t know who is calling them.

          The DOJ doesn’t enforce the 5 selling limit. You probably didn’t know that.
          (Assuming he’s not a dealer).

          If he’s denied he might be a prohibited person so we can assume no ammo or guns (wife) allowed in the house. He should do the CDOJ Personal Firearms Eligibility Check. (PFEC). Google that. $20 I think.

          Good luck
          Bob
          Buyer has purchased firearms before. Has a green card that expired, then got an extension issued on his visa

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12720

            Originally posted by aeronaut
            Buyer has purchased firearms before. Has a green card that expired, then got an extension issued on his visa
            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              baih777
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2011
              • 5680

              There is no truth to your statement. My friend got a visit after his 8th PPT. And it was a rifle i sold him. DOJ came to my house at 7pm to verify i sold the rifle and the reason.
              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
              I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
              I'm Back.

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              • #8
                aeronaut
                Banned
                • Mar 2022
                • 86

                Originally posted by baih777
                There is no truth to your statement. My friend got a visit after his 8th PPT. And it was a rifle i sold him. DOJ came to my house at 7pm to verify i sold the rifle and the reason.
                Any prosecution involved?

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                • #9
                  SkyHawk
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 23523

                  Originally posted by aeronaut
                  Buyer has purchased firearms before. Has a green card that expired, then got an extension issued on his visa
                  Is this transfer related to this post?
                  Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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                  • #10
                    aeronaut
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 86

                    Originally posted by SkyHawk
                    Is this transfer related to this post?
                    https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1790551

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                    • #11
                      Oceanbob
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 12720

                      Originally posted by baih777
                      There is no truth to your statement. My friend got a visit after his 8th PPT. And it was a rifle i sold him. DOJ came to my house at 7pm to verify i sold the rifle and the reason.
                      The limit is on HANDGUNS only. And does not apply to buyers of anything.
                      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                      • #12
                        SkyHawk
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 23523

                        Originally posted by Oceanbob
                        The limit is on HANDGUNS only. And does not apply to buyers of anything.
                        The limit on sales applies to all guns now, as of 1/1/2020

                        https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=16730.
                        Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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                        • #13
                          baih777
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 5680

                          Originally posted by aeronaut
                          Any prosecution involved?
                          No.
                          They suspended my friends right to buy a firearm for one year.
                          After a year he had to submit the eligibility form.
                          Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                          I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                          I'm Back.

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                          • #14
                            Oceanbob
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 12720

                            Originally posted by SkyHawk
                            The limit on sales applies to all guns now, as of 1/1/2020

                            https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=16730.
                            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                            • #15
                              aeronaut
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2022
                              • 86

                              Originally posted by baih777
                              No.
                              They suspended my friends right to buy a firearm for one year.
                              After a year he had to submit the eligibility form.
                              Did they search/seize his legally owned firearms then return them to him in a year, or just prohibited him from buying more for 1 year?

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