CA DROS Delay

[johnctokalenko]

Do you happen to know what ORI number of the form you submitted was this is way I will know if it's the same.

I do not, sorry.

[mrdd]

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

Much, most, or even all of the "liability" these corporate lawyers are referring to may be the liability to their own personal political agendas, that is, "the Second Amendment is an 'outrage'."

If you have the time and patience for it, you could always look into small claims. Probably more trouble than it's worth, though - the judge will say you got your money back, so "what's the problem?"

If you paid Turner's by credit card, you could always chargeback the DROS fee, but I have mixed feelings about that. A small consolation for your hassle and denial of rights.

@pacrat is correct. You should get the item that you paid for. If you wanted to keep the money, you wouldn't have even gone to the store!

[LMan57]

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

Do you happen to know what ORI number of the form you submitted was this is way I will know if it's the same. I submitted two different one that was a record review CA0349435 and a Firearms Record Review ORI number AB165.

[johnctokalenko]

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

Much, most, or even all of the "liability" these corporate lawyers are referring to may be the liability to their own personal political agendas, that is, "the Second Amendment is an 'outrage'."

If you have the time and patience for it, you could always look into small claims. Probably more trouble than it's worth, though - the judge will say you got your money back, so "what's the problem?"

If you paid Turner's by credit card, you could always chargeback the DROS fee, but I have mixed feelings about that. A small consolation for your hassle and denial of rights.

[LMan57]

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

Ok thanks.

[johnctokalenko]

So you had a Firearms Live Scan and it took only 5 days for the results, I had my Live Scan on the 29th of July and so far nothing when I check online ig get in Progress.

Type Status
CA Completed - 07/29/2022 - Response will be sent after Firearms is completed.
Firearms In Progress

I think I should call them again!

I was advised to do a standard Record Review because of what you're encountering. I was only checking for "honest mistakes." There are none. Especially considering I've been approved for ammo four times during my wait, I figured there were no "honest" mistakes.

The "Firearms Eligibility Check" is being deliberately delayed, to frustrate exercise of rights. That's pretty damn clear.

I just got my FBI RAP sheet today, as well. No surprises, as expected.

[pacrat]

They refunded you everything you paid except the DO"J" extortion fee? I can't fault them on that, since the fee was taken by the pimp named Bonta. They should release, but their lawyers tell them that's "too much liability." On that, they have guilt.

Yes, the extortion fee went to DOJ. "THAT'S THE LAW".

Yes, the FFL SHOULD release. Because, "THAT'S THE LAW".

Since the FFL was a dickhead that didn't follow the law as written. They chose to break the law, and the sales contract. THAT IS THE ONLY LIABILITY INVOLVED.

BREACH OF CONTRACT.

The "too much liability" crock of crap. Is not what any 2A knowledgeable attorney would tell a FFL client.

THAT LIE WAS CREATED AND PROMUGATED BY KAMALA. In Jan of 2014. Becerra, and now Bonta, just let the lie stand, because it serves the purpose of their political agendas.

[LMan57]

Received the attached (lightly redacted) letter from the Department of "Justice" (sic) today (September 19th) for my DROS of August 3rd. Supposedly generated on August 10th, and not sent until September 13th.

I've been approved for FOUR near-instantaneous Ammunition DROSes since, LOL.

Either Bonta's fiefdom is really FUBAR, or this is outright deliberate.

My DO"J" RAP sheet took only five days after Live Scan, and contains NO "disqualifying information" as implied by the letter.

So you had a Firearms Live Scan and it took only 5 days for the results, I had my Live Scan on the 29th of July and so far nothing when I check online ig get in Progress.

Type Status
CA Completed - 07/29/2022 - Response will be sent after Firearms is completed.
Firearms In Progress

I think I should call them again!

[johnctokalenko]

Well, mine came back undetermined. Dirty Bird, in Bakersfield, released my firearm. Turners, right across the street in Bakersfield, would not release, and refunded my money minus the DROS fee. Guess which one is more likely to get my business in the future.

They refunded you everything you paid except the DO"J" extortion fee? I can't fault them on that, since the fee was taken by the pimp named Bonta. They should release, but their lawyers tell them that's "too much liability." On that, they have guilt.

[johnctokalenko]

Any given livescan is only valid for the narrow purpose which it was performed for. For instance a livescan performed for adoption or foster parenting has no meaning to a livescan for CCW, nor does either of those negate the need to perform a livescan for COE.

You could be required to give a livescan every day of the week for five different purposes. A single livescan would not be good enough. A livescan taken yesterday for reason X does not influence the need to take another one today for reason Y.

So the Department of "Justice" (sic) tells us. In reality, any Live Scan for a "sensitive" position is going to show you details, if any, of "disqualifying" records. DO"J" just wants the money and to frustrate exercise of rights.

If we had ANY leadership in this State, this scam would be smacked down already.

[johnctokalenko]

Received the attached (lightly redacted) letter from the Department of "Justice" (sic) today (September 19th) for my DROS of August 3rd. Supposedly generated on August 10th, and not sent until September 13th.

I've been approved for FOUR near-instantaneous Ammunition DROSes since, LOL.

Either Bonta's fiefdom is really FUBAR, or this is outright deliberate.

My DO"J" RAP sheet took only five days after Live Scan, and contains NO "disqualifying information" as implied by the letter.

[Creative300]

Finally picked up my new Springfield XD last week after 30 day delay and undetermined.

Didn't get the DOJ delay letter like I usually do, but shop called me after 8th day to tell me it was deeee-layed.

Currently waiting for my Browning Buckmark which I should get early next week if it's not delayed.

[LMan57]

Different. They use different ORI numbers.

CCW uses ORI CA0300000
Criminal Record review uses ORI CA0349435
Firearms record review uses ORI AB165

Thank you.

[SkyHawk]

So this brings me to another question Are the CCW and Firearms record review live scans the same or different?

Different. They use different ORI numbers.

CCW uses ORI CA0300000
Criminal Record review uses ORI CA0349435
Firearms record review uses ORI AB165

[Nick Adams]