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  • ORIGINAL TEX
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 4

    Out of State Ammo

    Is it illegal for a California resident to drive to Nevada to purchase ammunition?

    Do the weird ammo purchase requirements only apply to ammunition actually purchased in California?
  • #2
    9Cal_OC
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2019
    • 6683

    Not illegal.

    But illegal to import it back unless buyer is COE/FFL03.
    Freedom isn't free...

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      ^^^ correct.

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      • #4
        MrFancyPants
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 1160

        Cash and carry, no questions asked.

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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15018

          Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
          Not illegal.

          But illegal to import it back unless buyer is COE/FFL03.
          Originally posted by edgerly779
          ^^^ correct.
          Not completely.

          If someone and their spouse travel to a different state, spouse A can buy all the ammo they want and give it to spouse B.

          In the law banning the importation of ammo the powers to be wrote in an exemption for a gift from a spouse.

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          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

          Originally posted by Erion929

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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            Spouse cannot reside in this state with hubby travel outstate and buy ammo and bring back.

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            • #7
              SilveradoColt21
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2021
              • 2440

              It's not illegal for you to buy ammo in another state so as long as you don't try importing it back without having your Type 03 FFL+COE BUT, many places won't even sell to CA residents.
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              • #8
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 15018

                Originally posted by edgerly779
                Spouse cannot reside in this state with hubby travel outstate and buy ammo and bring back.
                Yes they can, read the law.
                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30241

                  Originally posted by ORIGINAL TEX
                  Is it illegal for a California resident to drive to Nevada to purchase ammunition?

                  Do the weird ammo purchase requirements only apply to ammunition actually purchased in California?
                  It is legal for a CA resident to purchase or acquire ammunition in another State, in accordance with Federal laws/regulations and that State's laws/regulations.

                  Unless they are an exempt person [PC 30414(b)], it is illegal for that CA resident to return to CA with the ammunition they acquired in another State without it being shipped to a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30414(a)]

                  In order for a non-exempt person to legally return to CA with ammunition they acquired in another State, the ammunition must be shipped to a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer, who will then transfer (DROS + eligibility check) the ammunition back to that CA resident.



                  Penal Code 30414
                  (a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.
                  (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
                  (1) An ammunition vendor.
                  (2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer’s duties.
                  (3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                  (4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.
                  (5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.
                  (6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.
                  (c) A violation of this section is an infraction for any first time offense, and either an infraction or a misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.
                  Last edited by Quiet; 01-25-2022, 3:54 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Dano3467
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 7381

                    New member, & third post

                    Interesting.

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                    • #11
                      M1NM
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 7966

                      (6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.

                      Save the wrapping and card that it's a gift from her on the anniversary of your meeting. Should be good evidence for the court case.

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                      • #12
                        jeremiah12
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2065

                        Originally posted by SilveradoColt21
                        It's not illegal for you to buy ammo in another state so as long as you don't try importing it back without having your Type 03 FFL+COE BUT, many places won't even sell to CA residents.
                        I have heard this many times and yet whenever I travel out of state and buy ammo, I have never been asked to see my ID. I do drive to NV once a month and drive twice a year to visit my son in Illinois. I buy ammo in a few places on the drive to visit my son.

                        Actually, I do have to show my ID in Illinois to buy ammo and that is to show I am exempt from the FOID card requirement. Since my son lives near the Underwood factory, I always make a stop there. Importing back is not an issue because I have my FFL 03 and COE and my wife is also with me.

                        I have also met quite a few former CA residents working at the gun stores I buy my ammo from so we have discussions on how much worse it has gotten since they left.
                        Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

                        A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

                        Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

                        --Librarian

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                        • #13
                          SilveradoColt21
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 2440

                          Originally posted by jeremiah12
                          I have heard this many times and yet whenever I travel out of state and buy ammo, I have never been asked to see my ID. I do drive to NV once a month and drive twice a year to visit my son in Illinois. I buy ammo in a few places on the drive to visit my son.

                          Actually, I do have to show my ID in Illinois to buy ammo and that is to show I am exempt from the FOID card requirement. Since my son lives near the Underwood factory, I always make a stop there. Importing back is not an issue because I have my FFL 03 and COE and my wife is also with me.

                          I have also met quite a few former CA residents working at the gun stores I buy my ammo from so we have discussions on how much worse it has gotten since they left.
                          Yeah only some places don't sell to CA residents, I believe there was a thread started here by a member not too long ago about a place in AZ that refused to sell to him because he was from California.
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                          • #14
                            broadside
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 1516

                            Originally posted by M1NM
                            (6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.

                            Save the wrapping and card that it's a gift from her on the anniversary of your meeting. Should be good evidence for the court case.
                            So explain how your spouse was able to import the ammo into the state to give to you.

                            Or are you opining that you are and your spouse go to NV, one of you buys the ammo and gives it to the other and since the receiver obtained it from a spouse it can then be imported legally?

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                            • #15
                              9Cal_OC
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 6683

                              Originally posted by broadside
                              So explain how your spouse was able to import the ammo into the state to give to you.

                              Or are you opining that you are and your spouse go to NV, one of you buys the ammo and gives it to the other and since the receiver obtained it from a spouse it can then be imported legally?
                              Freedom isn't free...

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