Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Mounting optic with 1 ring?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • BucDan
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 4062

    Mounting optic with 1 ring?

    I'm wondering if it's possible to mount a standard length optic with only 1 ring to help with eye relief by pushing the optic further out on the rail. Or mount both rings on the same side, in essence close to the eye piece side of the optic to help with eye relief?

    Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? Stable?

    I know it's an odd question.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57131

    It's probably not stable enough unless the optic is so short that there's only room for 1 ring.

    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

    Comment

    • #3
      Jeff213
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 706

      get quality rings and you can probably get away with mounting both rings on the same side. I think the key will be surface area of contact. Spread the 2 rings as far as you can on the same side of the scope, and use seriously quality rings, also bulkier profile so you can get more contact on the optic.
      Last edited by Jeff213; 09-03-2021, 4:47 AM.

      Comment

      • #4
        Scotty
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1865

        Any reason you can't use an offset mount?

        Comment

        • #5
          smoothy8500
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3846

          Leupold used to make extension rings for scopes back in the day. The front ring was cantilevered about 3/4" forward. But I think it was only for their dovetail mount.
          Last edited by smoothy8500; 09-03-2021, 7:16 AM.

          Comment

          • #6
            morrcarr67
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 15030

            Originally posted by BucDan
            I'm wondering if it's possible to mount a standard length optic with only 1 ring to help with eye relief by pushing the optic further out on the rail. Or mount both rings on the same side, in essence close to the eye piece side of the optic to help with eye relief?

            Has anyone done this before? Is it possible? Stable?

            I know it's an odd question.
            Have you thought about using a cantilever scope mount



            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

            Originally posted by Erion929

            Comment

            • #7
              BucDan
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 4062

              Originally posted by Scotty
              Any reason you can't use an offset mount?
              Can't find extra low rings offset mount. They're all AR15 height that I can find.

              It's for an SKS with a molot side mount, using an AK side rail and the primary arms acss 7.62x39. Not fully a Bubba, because it's all Russian items besides the optic

              Tried extending the LOP with a recoil pad which moves me back further behind the gun, but still a tad short.

              I considered using a choate stock with a recoil pad, but I like the wood.
              Last edited by BucDan; 09-03-2021, 8:17 AM.

              Comment

              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57131

                Originally posted by BucDan
                It's for an SKS with a molot side mount, using an AK side rail and the primary arms acss 7.62x39.
                Move the AK side rail further forward on the reciever or get a cantilevered mount that moves the scope further forward.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

                Comment

                • #9
                  pohorsky
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 836

                  Can you use any of the ultimak rails? When I was trying to mount the vxr scout on a mini, I found a low picatiny rail extension which I tried but ultimately didn't use which was pretty low. I can't remember who made it but Yankee hill machine looks like the make something similar.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    unusedusername
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4124

                    As others have said, it isn't a good idea to mount an optic designed for two rings using only one ring, unless you like broken optics.

                    https://rsregulate.com/ makes AK mounts with an "upper"/"lower" system for the mounts. You can customize the mount to do pretty much anything you need.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      BucDan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4062

                      I'm going to try mounting both rings on the back side. If it doesn't work out, I just leave the optic and mount combo on my AK and then use a 3x on the sks.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        Scotty
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1865

                        If you are running a low power variable or a scope with a small objective, but much mass in front of the turret, then you can probably get away with running 2 rings on the back half of the scope.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          SharedShots
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2021
                          • 2277

                          Yes you can use only one ring. The practice likely won't shatter the optics or cause the scope to self destruct. You'll likely be able to get a better mount with the single ring than two on the same end.

                          You must consider the scope ring carefully and use one that is wide like the Vortex (med price) , Spuhr (expensive) and Badger although the latter is a bit on the cheap side. If you use a poorly designed and made scope, sure it's going to eventually have issues but then it's not the use of the single ring setup, it's the quality of the scope.

                          If using a single wide ring on a quality scope results in problems more than some anecdote or just a few instances, please post the information so we can all see it, I haven't seen such information and have used single scope rings on various rifles where the scope was too short to bridge the distance between mounts and still have both rings on and it worked just fine. That too is anecdotal but no less than the blanket statement saying the optics will shatter or something like that.

                          Cantilever mounts oscillate too, just look at what they are, a long portion of rail hanging in free air. While the scope has two rings usually the entire weight of the scope plus the cantilevered portion of the mount in unsupported. Its highly doubtful anyone making cantilevered mounts does more than casual testing to see how reliability of the scopes are affected, they make them up and send them out. Obviously they seem to work ok.

                          Having the single ring closest to the balance of the length of the scope probably is better than toward one end.

                          Who has actual data that shows a single wide ring properly installed will cause the optics of the scope of shatter or self destruct? Not someone said but really happened as a pattern with various brands of scopes, rings and rifles?
                          Last edited by SharedShots; 09-04-2021, 8:40 AM.
                          Let Go of the Status Quo!

                          Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

                          Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

                          Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            pacrat
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2014
                            • 10283



                            Single Large Surface Ring Mount.

                            Wouldn't recommend it for a heavy optic, especially on a heavy recoiling rifle.

                            Just a pic I picked off interweb in answer to OP.

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            UA-8071174-1