Converting a Closet into a Safe

[jok5tr]

https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/co...t-room-door-32

[Glockrocks]

What about something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJkoQUdIHGo

[P5Ret]

Why are you concerned with DOJ's "rules"? The only law is concerning accessibility, if you have children in your home. I've never heard of DOJ showing up to inspect someone's safe.

You're probably better off just buying a real safe, and securing it in that closet, than trying to build a vault that is always going to have the weak point of sheetrock and wood framing.

[bugsy714]

If it were me I would tear out the drywall and install chicken wire and tarpaper then stucco the entire room


Dictated but not read, voice typing plus bad eyes equals typos

[jok5tr]

Converting a Closet into a Safe

Why are you concerned with DOJ's "rules"? The only law is concerning accessibility, if you have children in your home. I've never heard of DOJ showing up to inspect someone's safe.

You're probably better off just buying a real safe, and securing it in that closet, than trying to build a vault that is always going to have the weak point of sheetrock and wood framing.

[beanz2]

If it is done correctly, a closet-sized safe would hold a lot more than a safe that can fit inside the closet. The problem is, it may take an extensive tear down and rebuild of the closet. At least cinder block walls with rebar and concrete fill. Is the closet on concrete foundation, or is it on joists? If the latter, the floor needs to be reinforced and armored. Same with the ceiling.

It would make sense if you are still in the building stage of the house.

[scbauer]

Speaking from experience… put a big safe in the closet. Although your situation may be different, I was remodeling and built a new walk-in closet and considered a safe door but went with a safe inside. For added security, hide the closet.

https://www.hiddendoorstore.com

[Librarian]

I thought the law regarding accessibility involved using a DOJ-approved safe or lock. If that’s not the case, then do DOJ-approved safes and lock only matter when buying handguns and receivers? What about for storing RAWs?

No regulations (yet) on storage; use what you like, including nothing at all. ETA maybe SF still has its storage requirement, and I seem to recall at least one other. But local, not state.

There are regulations on transport - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...e=Transporting

But approved box or gun lock are 'checkoff items' before an FFL may deliver a gun to a buyer. There may be more, but I am aware of only Livermore city law that requires the gun lock to be applied at delivery; with only such local exceptions, CA law does not require that those safety devices ever be used. http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...es.2C_and_Laws

[whutsup40]

I say do it just for the cool factor!!

[jok5tr]

Converting a Closet into a Safe

www.hiddendoorstore.com

I was looking at those as well. Do you have one of these? How much does the door protrude into the closet space when closed? Also, are any seams or hinges visible on the exterior? Do they lock?

[71MUSTY]

I did one once, lined all the walls and the ceiling with panels they designed for prisons. Essentially corrugated steal sandwiched into concrete.

It was a pain to build and way expensive (even considering I got the door for free). While I thought it was cool the guy I sold the house too ripped it out to add a bathroom.

Would never do it again

[jok5tr]

No regulations (yet) on storage; use what you like, including nothing at all. ETA maybe SF still has its storage requirement, and I seem to recall at least one other. But local, not state.

There are regulations on transport - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...e=Transporting

But approved box or gun lock are 'checkoff items' before an FFL may deliver a gun to a buyer. There may be more, but I am aware of only Livermore city law that requires the gun lock to be applied at delivery; with only such local exceptions, CA law does not require that those safety devices ever be used. http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...es.2C_and_Laws

[Librarian]

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&division=4.&title=4.&part=6.&chapter=2.&article=

locked container or in a location that a reasonable person would believe to be secure.

(c) The firearm is carried on the person or within close enough proximity thereto that the individual can readily retrieve and use the firearm as if carried on the person.

(d) The firearm is locked with a locking device,

Not sure a locked closet is "a location that a reasonable person would believe to be secure", and 'DOJ-approved' is not a requirement.

[Djantlive]

I see no point of building a true room vault. Just put in a solid door with multiple dead bolts and door frame enforcements.

No one is going to cut through you wall for your guns. If you have millions of cash or gold, you should put that in a bank.

[jok5tr]

I see no point of building a true room vault. Just put in a solid door with multiple dead bolts and door frame enforcements.

No one is going to cut through you wall for your guns. If you have millions of cash or gold, you should put that in a bank.