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  • OllyWhite
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 11

    Didn't get charged tax?

    Someone I met just got through the DROS on a new rifle he got shipped to a local FFL from out of state and neither the FFL or retailer who shipped it out charged tax. Any repercussions from this or will he get charged tax when he goes to pick it up after the waiting period?
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    He owes the tax regardless. He can file with ftb and pay it direct. The receiving ffl will owe the tax if not paid.

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    • #3
      Oldmandan
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 2721

      Originally posted by OllyWhite
      Someone I met just got through the DROS on a new rifle he got shipped to a local FFL from out of state and neither the FFL or retailer who shipped it out charged tax. Any repercussions from this or will he get charged tax when he goes to pick it up after the waiting period?
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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 15018

        What? This wasn't a PPT, it was a dealer transfer. Most dealers are charging a good fee for their service. The dealers on the low end are charging $60 now a days, though there may be one or two charging less.


        Originally posted by Oldmandan

        Is this guy that cheap, where he has no moral integrity?
        I don't know this guy so I can't say. But, I would hope that he would step up and do the right thing and let the dealer know that he needs to pay the tax on this rifle.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Hope the dealer does not get stuck with taxes should not release unless tax paid.

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          • #6
            CheapBloke
            Banned
            • Feb 2019
            • 3115

            If a FFL dealer overcharges on Dros or adds on unnecessary fees on dros, will the FFL notify the customer that he overpaid and give a refund of the differences?

            Just as we customers need to inspect the dros form for errors and the firearm for faults before release, it would have to be on the FFL to inspect papers and firearm for release.
            Last edited by CheapBloke; 05-14-2021, 8:21 AM.

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            • #7
              heidad01
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 4902

              So he saved a few bucks.
              Why are you advertising it on the interwebs?
              Must not be a good friend of yours. From the sound of your original post you know the ins and outs of the process well.

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              • #8
                CheapBloke
                Banned
                • Feb 2019
                • 3115

                Originally posted by heidad01
                So he saved a few bucks.
                Why are you advertising it on the interwebs?
                Must not be a good friend of yours. From the sound of your original post you know the ins and outs of the process well.
                He might be jealous. Maybe him and his friend went to dros the similar orders, and he noticed he got charged more...

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                • #9
                  SkyHawk
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 23518

                  Originally posted by heidad01
                  So he saved a few bucks.
                  Why are you advertising it on the interwebs?
                  Must not be a good friend of yours. From the sound of your original post you know the ins and outs of the process well.
                  This ^^^

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                  • #10
                    cire raeb
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1049

                    Good for him. I would walk away and be quiet about it. �� Kalifornia.

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                    • #11
                      kcheung2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 4387

                      Do you make it a common practice to dig into the tax situations of "someone I met"? Or are you only "asking for a friend"?
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                      • #12
                        beanz2
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12032

                        That happened to my LGS in Nevada. He had been transferring firearms without charging tax, not knowing that he was to collect it. There was a time when interstate sales were done without the FFL having to collect the taxes and when it changed, he somehow did not get the notice. Finally the state came and hit him with a $48,000 bill for owed sales taxes. I felt bad for the guy and I let him sell a bunch of my ammo at 30% consignment to make up for his losses.
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                        • #13
                          wpage
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 6071

                          Death and taxes...

                          Guarenteed.
                          God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
                          John 3:16

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                          • #14
                            lastinline
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 2364

                            If the California FFL never collected the tax, and the seller never collected any tax, and the end purchaser never declares it, that very likely is the end of it. The FTB would have to audit the California FFL, and even in that rare case, it would likely go unnoticed.
                            And that’s the way it should be.

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                            • #15
                              Barang
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 12327

                              Originally posted by wpage
                              Death and taxes...

                              Guarenteed.
                              in kali, you still pay taxes even when you're dead.

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