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  • sailorjerry96
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 61

    Question regarding registration

    Good evening CG. I'll cut straight to the point: What if a California resident PCS'd to another state, and while they were in that state, purchased some firearms. Then, later received PCS orders back to CA, and brought their guns with them. Should they register those guns as new resident or something other? Asking for a friend who just wants to do the right thing. Thanks for your time, I also apologize if this should have been posted in another forum.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44646

    An active-duty member need not register anything, unless and until s/he might separate in CA.

    See the wiki - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...itary_exempted
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      sailorjerry96
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2021
      • 61

      @Librarian thank you for the link. What if they were a CA resident prior to the military and PCSing? Or does it not matter

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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 15018

        Originally posted by sailorjerry96
        @Librarian thank you for the link. What if they were a CA resident prior to the military and PCSing? Or does it not matter
        It does matter if they kept their CA residency and when the firearms where acquired. More info is needed.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          sailorjerry96
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2021
          • 61

          @morrcarr67 Let's say they PCS'd to Illinois, and Illinois requires a FOID to purchase firearms/ammunition. They were granted a FOID, and legally purchased firearms in Illinois. Then later received PCS orders back to CA. Should the guns be registered as "new resident" or something else? Or is active duty military just exempt from this registration as @Librarian stated

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          • #6
            morrcarr67
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 15018

            Originally posted by sailorjerry96
            @morrcarr67 Let's say they PCS'd to Illinois, and Illinois requires a FOID to purchase firearms/ammunition. They were granted a FOID, and legally purchased firearms in Illinois. Then later received PCS orders back to CA. Should the guns be registered as "new resident" or something else? Or is active duty military just exempt from this registration as @Librarian stated
            It doesn't matter what happened in IL. What matters is what happened in CA.

            If CA considered them a resident of CA while they were in IL depending on when they acquired the firearms they may need to send them to a CA FFL for transfer.

            The biggest question is did CA consider them residents of CA while in IL?

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            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

            Originally posted by Erion929

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            • #7
              sailorjerry96
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 61

              They were not required to pay CA state tax while they were in Illinois, but did pay IL state tax. I am not sure if CA considered them a CA resident.

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              • #8
                morrcarr67
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 15018

                Originally posted by sailorjerry96
                They were not required to pay CA state tax while they were in Illinois, but did pay IL state tax. I am not sure if CA considered them a CA resident.
                Well, that's a good start.

                Good chance that CA didn't consider them residents.

                The only way to know for sure is to check with them.

                If they were not considered residents what librarian posted earlier would be correct.

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                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                Originally posted by Erion929

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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44646

                  Originally posted by morrcarr67
                  Well, that's a good start.

                  Good chance that CA didn't consider them residents.

                  The only way to know for sure is to check with them.

                  If they were not considered residents what librarian posted earlier would be correct.
                  We have not seen it happen yet - at least, no one on Calguns has posted the experience - but Our Fine Legislature decided to pass this: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=27585.
                  27585.

                  (a) Commencing January 1, 2015,

                  a resident of this state

                  shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state,

                  any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless the person first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.
                  (b) is the list of exemptions from this law; active-duty military are not listed.

                  And it's punishable as
                  (c) If any of the following circumstances apply, a violation of this article shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170, or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment:

                  (7) A violation of Section 27585 involving a handgun.
                  1170 is felony.

                  Just OFL screwing another segment of the population.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #10
                    morrcarr67
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 15018

                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    We have not seen it happen yet - at least, no one on Calguns has posted the experience - but Our Fine Legislature decided to pass this: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=27585. (b) is the list of exemptions from this law; active-duty military are not listed.



                    And it's punishable as 1170 is felony.



                    Just OFL screwing another segment of the population.
                    I know.

                    That's why I was trying to figure out if they were considered CA residents. You failed to ask that before you made your first post saying that military personnel on PCS orders to CA don't need to register their firearms.

                    The OP specifically said that they USED to be CA residents.

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                    Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                    Originally posted by Erion929

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