Working for a dispensary and guns

[heidad01]

Quote:

Originally Posted by*PaparockCal*

After I came out of the Army the DEA tried to recruit me but I had experienced all of the WAR on Drugs I cared to and declined their offer. It's a long story that pretty much, I, let destroy my life. If you hang around drugs at all they will eventually destroy your life. The Asian cartels had a $30,000 bounty on my head back in 1972 and my superiors in the US Army tried to have me murdered. I had to get out to stay alive. Like I said being around drugs will destroy your life no matter what. I am still in hiding as a result as no one really knows who I am. No friends, No one close. Get out and stay out. I don't stay long in a forum like this for that reason or reside long in one place.


Reminds me of a ex San Francisco police officer we had here a while ago whose dept tried to kill him and his family.
Kept naming detective this and that conspiring agaist him and the DA backing them. It was quite a story for a while.

[The Gleam]

Lol another “green plant bad” thread!

Not really that at all.

Regardless of your opinion on it, the law explicitly states what Quiet posted above; and in a state that has a wholly anti-2nd Amendment agenda for wanting to add new classifications of reasons for prohibiting gun ownership including menial misdemeanors, it would behoove anyone to take that precept seriously, where they already have this disqualifier at their disposal, and use it to their advantage, AND get help from federal support to act on it.

Maybe you missed the academic fact, that carries no opinion one way or the other about "green plant" - with application beyond just the "use" question that exists on the 4473 - so here it is again:

CCW as marijuana worker

Under Federal laws/regulations...
Being directly employed by a marijuana dispensary makes you a prohibited person that can not legally own or possess firearms/ammunition. [18 USC 922(h)]

Do what you need to do to keep a roof over your head. Plenty of people out there who smoke weed and own guns. It's not really my thing but I don't care what they do.

Most people here learned everything about weed from Reefer madness, surprised they don't call it the devils lettuce. Weed bad, but being an alcoholic is cool.

Irrelevant - again. According to the above, that thing you do to keep a roof over your head, just might work to make that roof be one of a prison cell - and be prohibited from owning firearms in the future.

But have at it; opinion on "weed" need not apply.

[IVC]

No, another "green plant not legal" thread.

[IVC]

Do what you need to do to keep a roof over your head. Plenty of people out there who smoke weed and own guns. It's not really my thing but I dont care what they do.

It's not about whether you care, but about whether it's legal.

Plenty of people drive above the speed limit (myself included), yet it doesn't make it legal. I can get a ticket at any time, even though I almost certainly won't if I go with the flow of traffic. However, whether I get a ticket doesn't change the legality of driving above the speed limit.

With pot and guns the "ticket" has much more serious consequences. That's just how the laws are written. Pointing it out is not a moral judgment, it's a warning about the consequences.

Most people here learned everything about weed from Reefer madness, suprised they don't call it the devils lettuce. Weed bad, but being an alcoholic is cool.

Weed is illegal, alcohol is not.

Firearm laws explicitly address illegal drugs. Moral judgment is irrelevant in determining legality of gun ownership when dealing drugs.

[PyroFox79]

Irrelevant - again. According to the above, that thing you do to keep a roof over your head, just might work to make that roof be one of a prison cell - and be prohibited from owning firearms in the future.

But have at it; opinion on "weed" need not apply.

For a group of people that idolize what were a bunch of traitors against their goverment in essence, you guys sure are scared of the government. But hey you do you and I'll do me. All this over a plant.

[Mr. Beretta]

I personally know someone who worked as a uniformed armed security guard for a dispensary. The place got raided by the feds, and he got arrested for having a firearm involved in the distribution of drugs or whatever the legalese version of that scenario is. Long story short, he lost his right to own firearms and was forced to sell or transfer all of them out of his name by a certain date.

Neither the security guard company or the dispensary provided any legal defense for him. They hung him out to dry.

So not worth it.

OP......I think the above post best answers your question(s).

[The Gleam]

For a group of people that idolize what were a bunch of traitors against their goverment in essence, you guys sure are scared of the government. But hey you do you and I'll do me. All this over a plant.

Still irrelevant, as equal as you are to this thread.

You sure are incredibly vain and self-infatuated to think anyone here gives a flying turd about what smog you sip on in your spare time as a recreational hobby.

We don't care at all, no moral judgement is being passed on you, and plenty of us have no concern over such pedestrian past-times.

We also recognize it's highly unlikely such trivial pursuits for self-enjoyment will ever be formally documented or would go noticed by anyone, or even known by anyone, nor that most law-enforcement in CA would even care in the first place if they discovered you were AND knew you were a gun owner.

None of the above was dependent on the original question, nor does your input have any bearing, or even make sense in the context.

The concern had been if the O/P were to take on a documented role in a Schedule 1 prohibited drug distribution which WOULD be formally documented in several ways, from Federal taxes to State taxes, by The CA Workers Comp Bureau, CA Labor Board, State, County, and/or City licensing and permit recognitions, possibly the DMV if linked to the driving position, as well as Federal and State Healthcare filings recognizing just who is the employer - by name.

That is something that whether one is NOT "scared of the government" and wished to fully commit to civil-disobedience to make a point, won't be able to escape the inevitable above that it's highly likely that somewhere along the way any faction of that would put together gun-owner to DOCUMENTED dispensary worker, and acknowledge gun ownership prohibiting factors exist.

Yet as an aside, if you wish to make it so, I implore you to stand by your convictions - here's how you can show us you're so great - the next time you fill out a 4473 for a gun purchase, you just "hey you do you" and check the YES box for question 21., e, that asks:

e. "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. "

Go ahead. Do you. Prove to us all that you are not "scared of the government". I bet you don't, and that proves you are "scared of the government".

All over a plant.

[ACfixer]

No, another "breaking federal law while carrying a firearms is a bad idea" thread.

[tatso7]

If you have spare time just do food delivery service like door dash etc. I'm doing it not for the money, hell I can make that money sitting in the office doing nothing, but it relaxes me after sitting down all day looking at computer screen all day. My wife does not get home from work til 6. I get off 2:30 so I do it for 1 hour before heading home. I

[finsfan21]

Still irrelevant, as equal as you are to this thread.

You sure are incredibly vain and self-infatuated to think anyone here gives a flying turd about what smog you sip on in your spare time as a recreational hobby.

We don't care at all, no moral judgement is being passed on you, and plenty of us have no concern over such pedestrian past-times.

We also recognize it's highly unlikely such trivial pursuits for self-enjoyment will ever be formally documented or would go noticed by anyone, or even known by anyone, nor that most law-enforcement in CA would even care in the first place if they discovered you were AND knew you were a gun owner.

None of the above was dependent on the original question, nor does your input have any bearing, or even make sense in the context.

The concern had been if the O/P were to take on a documented role in a Schedule 1 prohibited drug distribution which WOULD be formally documented in several ways, from Federal taxes to State taxes, by The CA Workers Comp Bureau, CA Labor Board, State, County, and/or City licensing and permit recognitions, possibly the DMV if linked to the driving position, as well as Federal and State Healthcare filings recognizing just who is the employer - by name.

That is something that whether one is NOT "scared of the government" and wished to fully commit to civil-disobedience to make a point, won't be able to escape the inevitable above that it's highly likely that somewhere along the way any faction of that would put together gun-owner to DOCUMENTED dispensary worker, and acknowledge gun ownership prohibiting factors exist.

Yet as an aside, if you wish to make it so, I implore you to stand by your convictions - here's how you can show us you're so great - the next time you fill out a 4473 for a gun purchase, you just "hey you do you" and check the YES box for question 21., e, that asks:



Go ahead. Do you. Prove to us all that you are not "scared of the government". I bet you don't, and that proves you are "scared of the government".

All over a plant.

[sigstroker]

No, another "breaking federal law while carrying a firearms is a bad idea" thread.

Turning into another "stoners should be able to do what they want" thread.

[IVC]

We don't care at all, no moral judgement is being passed on you, and plenty of us have no concern over such pedestrian past-times.

This is a nice summary, especially the term "pedestrian past-times."

Our personal opinions on the whole issue of drugs, from pot to the most potent synthetics, are an off-topic subject. It is completely irrelevant in the context of this thread, where the OP is asking for information on the specific subject of being employed as an armed guard by a marijuana distribution enterprise. The words in bold is all we are discussing.

[MrEd]

It is generally understood in the Security Industry that you can not transport or be in possession of MJ while carrying a firearm .

There are some circumstances in which you can have a gun and work at a location where MJ is present .

It is problematic however if it is a place where MJ is sold for retail to the general public [B]and[B] your actions contribute to the sales of the product , as an example : checking ID's and Medical Recommendations .

[RJR45]

When in doubt: don't.

[k1dude]

Which is more important to you? Drugs, or guns? You get to choose one, not both.