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  • #16
    damon1272
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 4857

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    • #17
      tabascoz28
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 3364

      If the background check was as strong as my county for ccw, then yes universal ccw, NFA and suppressors. Requalify every year or two.

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      • #18
        Milsurp Collector
        Calguns Addict
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2009
        • 5884

        No.

        42 states are either shall-issue or constitutional carry.



        I wouldn't impose so-called "universal" background checks on the whole country in exchange for concealed carry in eight Democratic-controlled states. If a majority of voters in those eight states wanted liberal concealed carry availability they would make it happen, just as it happened in formerly no-issue or may-issue states.




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        • #19
          Silence Dogood
          Senior Member
          • May 2018
          • 1282

          Originally posted by Wheellock
          Throw in de-listing from NFA and 50 state legal suppressors and I would be in.
          I like that^^^.

          Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
          No.

          42 states are either shall-issue or constitutional carry.



          I wouldn't impose so-called "universal" background checks on the whole country in exchange for concealed carry in eight Democratic-controlled states. If a majority of voters in those eight states wanted liberal concealed carry availability they would make it happen, just as it happened in formerly no-issue or may-issue states.




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          Agreed^^^.

          The only gun-related Federal legislation that I would support would NOT be gun-control but rather, laws protecting 2A rights in the states that currently infringe upon them by creating reciprocity and criminalizing bans (e.g. AWCA), registries, and taxes/fees (e.g. DROS).

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          • #20
            CoopsDad
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1710

            No more compromise. Any trade of this for that with the antigunners is one more notch on the rachet of infringements.

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            • #21
              -hanko
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2002
              • 14174

              No way...

              Idaho gives me constitutional carry as part of being here. Assuming I'm buying something from an -01 ffl, no NICS is required as I also have an enhanced license to carry for the reciprocity advantages.

              Why would I want any changes?? Nor would I trade.

              This is the same stupid question raised here before one of FBHO's elections.
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              • #22
                finsfan21
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 615

                No because UBC doesn't work without registry.

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                • #23
                  finsfan21
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 615

                  Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                  CCW permits require background checks. So no. I like parking lot ppt.
                  This

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                  • #24
                    mshill
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 4450

                    Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                    CCW permits require background checks. So no. I like parking lot ppt.
                    ^^^^^ This, and keep in mind there are now 18 states (36%) That have unrestricted carry. You want to f up a third of the states because CA sucks balls.
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                    • #25
                      blubullett
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 347

                      Yes I would. Can you add a poll to the top of this thread.

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                      • #26
                        ACfixer
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 6053

                        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                        CCW permits require background checks. So no. I like parking lot ppt.
                        Add my name to this.
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                        • #27
                          slamfire1
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 794

                          Nope.

                          There is only a certain number of gun rights in this world, and they are shrinking, not expanding. Liberals don't want "White Supremacists" driving around the country with guns. They will demand back ground checks for everything, but they are not going to offer anything in return. It will be take, take, take.

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                          • #28
                            Bigtwin
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 2639

                            **** no!
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                            • #29
                              L84CABO
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8674

                              Keep in mind the end goal is not UBC's. Oh the left wants UBC's for sure, but what they're really after is gun registration.

                              And that either happens as a result of UBC's, as the information about the owner, the gun, serial number, etc., will likely be stored (defacto registration). And if by some chance the law passes with the condition that the info gets destroyed immediately once the check is complete, it won't be long before the left comes back and says, "ya know, UBC's aren't really working like they need to and that's because we need to be able to track the history of checks so we're going to need to store the data now." BAM! Gun Registration complete!
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                              • #30
                                MajorSideburns
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 1684

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                It should be a given that a tracking background check would include a 50 state CCW because that law is so narrowly tailored to make sure that only non-criminals (as proven by the tracking background check) would be legally carrying.
                                Anybody not "clear" on their tracking background check would not be able to carry legally.
                                Except the 9th Circus just ruled the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee the right to carry open or concealed outside the home

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