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  • #46
    seabee1
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1230

    Originally posted by ohsmily
    Is that supposed to be a joke? It might be somewhat humorous if Quiet hadn't already posted the relevant statute which contains a citation to the definition of a gun show for FFL premise purposes.

    "b) A gun show or an event is a function sponsored by any national, State, or local organization, devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms, or an organization or association that sponsors functions devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms in the community."
    it's an event. it's sponsored by the state. it's devoted to the collection of guns

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    • #47
      seabee1
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1230

      Originally posted by edgerly779
      ^^ Surrender for profit without id . Why don't you challenge it and see how that works out. (LOL)
      I'm just saying that there must be some provision in the law that makes this legal, otherwise we could all do it. can a police officer or police department just go and buy a gun from someone on the street with no paperwork?

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      • #48
        Robert1234
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 3080

        Originally posted by seabee1
        Is not the buyback itself illegal? I mean, doesn't the law say all transfers must be DROS'd through an FFL? isn't a buyback a transfer?
        "Laws for thee, but not for me"

        That's their mantra.

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        • #49
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          I traded 3 broken firearms for 300 bucks in target cards. Not worth fixing or spending time selling and doing dros on. There were some high end firearms and some sub machine guns . A swedish k with suppressor and a madsen. A m1A with f/h .

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          • #50
            Sig so sour of ca
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2016
            • 479

            Did it see what the high end ones were? I'm assuming a fake can?

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            • #51
              edgerly779
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              Saw over/unders/ 45 1911s/ some sw revolvers/ several ars/ talked to my buddy there and he said a revolver collection came in early. Person in front of me gave up 10 long guns.

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              • #52
                SCVlongstroke
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 725

                Originally posted by seabee1
                I'm just saying that there must be some provision in the law that makes this legal, otherwise we could all do it. can a police officer or police department just go and buy a gun from someone on the street with no paperwork?
                All day everyday they take guns with no DROS.

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                • #53
                  Dan_Eastvale
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 10762

                  And how many widows have handed over her dead husband's expensive guns and ammo collection over to the police gratis.

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                  • #54
                    God Bless America
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2014
                    • 5165

                    These buy-backs are "no questions asked."

                    No doubt some stolen guns are disposed of.

                    They probably are not marked "STOLEN" and I doubt the seller would so advise.

                    We would be buying at our own risk, from a risky source.

                    Great idea.

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                    • #55
                      seabee1
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1230

                      Originally posted by SCVlongstroke
                      All day everyday they take guns with no DROS.

                      that still doesn't make it legal. maybe not a DROS, but a transfer of some sort.

                      just for the sake of argument, say you took a firearm that you owned and purchased legally here in Ca. you give it to the cops in exchange for a gift card. they don't ask your name, don't give you a receipt or a proper transfer record. how do you reconcile with the state after that? how do the police account to the state? what if the gun you turn in ends up used in a crime at some later date? there is no way this is legal in any way.

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                      • #56
                        seabee1
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1230

                        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                        And how many widows have handed over her dead husband's expensive guns and ammo collection over to the police gratis.
                        grandad's old relic from that war way back when

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                        • #57
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          I just went to target with cards and they gave me 400 bucks for 3 broken guns.
                          Numrich offered me 150 for all 3 as parts.

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                          • #58
                            Wheellock
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 1112

                            Originally posted by seabee1
                            that still doesn't make it legal. maybe not a DROS, but a transfer of some sort.

                            just for the sake of argument, say you took a firearm that you owned and purchased legally here in Ca. you give it to the cops in exchange for a gift card. they don't ask your name, don't give you a receipt or a proper transfer record. how do you reconcile with the state after that? how do the police account to the state? what if the gun you turn in ends up used in a crime at some later date? there is no way this is legal in any way.
                            I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is a process the police use when they receive a firearm be it by turn it or take it off a criminal. One would hope it gets checked against the stolen firearm records in case the rightful owner is looking for it, but that is probably wishful thinking.

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                            • #59
                              Robert1234
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3080

                              Originally posted by edgerly779
                              I just went to target with cards and they gave me 400 bucks for 3 broken guns.
                              Numrich offered me 150 for all 3 as parts.
                              Economics, the government is using money they didn't have to earn, to buy something they won't have to sell, so their agents (the cops) don't care how it's spent.

                              Numrich has to concern themselves with what they can sell the guns for, so they are limited in what they will spend on them. At least they are if they want to stay in business.

                              When the government runs out of money, they'll just take more from you.

                              I don't begrudge you making the most on your junk, just don't act like Numrich (or any other private business) is being cheap (not saying you were casting aspersions at Numrich, just noting that there's a reason they can only spend so much on someone's junk guns). They live in the real world economy, the government doesn't.

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                              • #60
                                edgerly779
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 19871

                                I went for the better return with less hassle. I restore old 22s so I buy from Numrich. I gave them first option.

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