Hypothetically speaking...

[RickD427]

You always try this line.

Facts are you don't have to be responsible for the faulty advice you give.

It's not your skin and freedom at risk.

Bottom line is if anyone finds a firearm and doesn't turn it in to the police, they risk criminal charges.

They may "get away with it". But it's not worth the risk.

Are you willing to risk your freedom to keep something which isn't yours legally?

That's the real issue.

Thanks, You beat me to the response.

[pacrat]

You always try this line.

Facts are you don't have to be responsible for the faulty advice you give.

It's not your skin and freedom at risk.

Bottom line is if anyone finds a firearm and doesn't turn it in to the police, they risk criminal charges.

They may "get away with it". But it's not worth the risk.

Are you willing to risk your freedom to keep something which isn't yours legally?

That's the real issue.

FROM POST #9

Originally Posted by SVT-40 View Post
If it's a firearm you have to turn it in to the police.

Care to substantiate that claim?

I see by your response that you are unable to substantiate your faulty claim. And I obviously triggered your typical default response of deflection and obsfucation.

[L84CABO]

I do love me a good hiding place, secret passages, secret rooms, etc. I love seeing PICTURES of these types of things...hypothetical rendition photos, of course, not photos of the actual real things.

[fiddletown]

And the fact that it would be impossible to prove "BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT" that current homeowner KNEW of prior theft.
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The fact is that you can have no idea what it would be possible or impossible to prove. That would depend on exactly what happened and exactly what evidence there might be.

[B]...Abandoned personal property at a previous residence. Is a matter of civil property law. Not the Penal Code.

Yet you still can't support your claim with citation to applicable, primary legal authority.*

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*Primary legal authority:

...Primary authorities are the rules of law that are binding upon the courts, government, and individuals. Examples are statutes, regulations, court orders, and court decisions. They are generated by legislatures, courts, and administrative agencies....

[Like2fly]

OP.... Could you Hypothetically tell us what these Hypotetical guns are, and how old you hypothetically think they would be if they were not hypothetical.

[DB>]

Given the hypothetical purchase of a home, which contained "hidden features" (aka ferreted away firearms), the purchaser would have ZERO liability for the "transfer" as it was not even known at the time of the REAL ESTATE purchase.

Document the "find", do a little title research and see if you can determine the original owners if you so wish, but otherwise the owner of the property presumptively "owns" the guns, as they came "attached" to the property. There's no "illegal" transfer since there was no knowledge or intent, or even (without research) knowing how many times the firearms in question may have transferred with the house.

There are quite a few scenarios whereby the stash could have been left behind (AKA "abandoned"), some innocent, others nefarious. Could have been a paranoid but legal gun owner, someone who had to hide because they shouldn't have had them, a drug house where they were "backup" never discovered, or the house was owned by an assassin...

Look at the age and type of firearms involved, maybe that would offer a clue to their provenance?

It would seem that doing a volreg to get them documented as to the "current" owner would be a reasonable next step? A PPT to another party might be a little risky should they come back as stolen...

If you can somehow determine they are stolen or connected to a crime in some way, surrender them. They came "free" with the house, so nothing lost in that resolution.

If the "hypothetical" is an actual scenario, this should be an interesting mystery to unravel!


PS - you may want to sort out the drug house/assassin thing before you move in, in case they come back for their "goodies"!

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Be prepared. Lay in a supply of Ray Ban sunglasses. Hypothetically speaking...



The bottom line is that you have no idea why they were 'hidden' or why the were 'left.' We can make guesses and offer advice until the cows come home, but the reality is 'found' guns comes up as a topic periodically on a number of different forums. The 'answers' generally follow the same pattern found in this thread; i.e., nobody knows with certainty, but there's always concern over the possibility of the firearm having been stolen, lost, used in a crime and the legalities involved in proper transfer.

What's your risk aversion/tolerance level?

[naz]

Keep em in the closet for now and contact an lawyer and stop posting on a public Internet forum about them

[cannon]

I do love me a good hiding place, secret passages, secret rooms, etc. I love seeing PICTURES of these types of things...hypothetical rendition photos, of course, not photos of the actual real things.

Same here.

[SharedShots]

Keep em in the closet for now and contact an lawyer and stop posting on a public Internet forum about them

^ This. Speaking hypothetically about something that is a fact you know about doesn't protect you from anything. Using the word "hypothetically" does not mean anything. Let a lawyer make the inquiry and do the talking. They can determine, using the facts to find out exactly what you need to know.

[Mr. Beretta]

I'll take it one step further.

I bet there's a strong likelihood of other "items" hidden in that house!

[SanDiego619]

I'll take it one step further.

I bet there's a strong likelihood of other "items" hidden in that house!

The DOJ will break all the walls down!!