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  • #16
    ScottsBad
    Progressives Suck!
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • May 2009
    • 5610

    Originally posted by theLBC
    ima shoot through a pillow, lol.

    if you are going to plan for ep, consider electronic options because not being able to hear the intruder or other sounds is probably not a great idea.
    Makes it hard to aim
    sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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    • #17
      GeeBee49
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2020
      • 1981

      Originally posted by sonofeugene
      So your idea is that we should leave our bedroom without glasses of a light to see with? Why not just keep your eyes closed as well?

      I someone is concerned about not grabbing the gun first, then do so. Then, if you have the time, put your glasses on and grab a light so you don't shoot your daughter. And put on some ear pro as well.
      I don't need my glasses to see the short distances that a HD situation would involve. I don't need a flashlight because I keep a small lamp on in the living room. An intruder would have to go through the living room to get to the bedrooms.
      I don't plan on using hearing protection because in a HD situation hearing is more important to me than seeing. As I've said in other similar posts, I will grab my gun and then take up one of two predetermined defensive positions and wait. Hearing the intruder's movements will tell me where he is and if he is coming my way.
      That is the plan I've had as long as I've lived in this house. Other people's plans may differ.

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      • #18
        theLBC
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2017
        • 6870

        Originally posted by ScottsBad
        Makes it hard to aim
        lol, i can point shoot and hit a 6" target every time at interior distances, although i have never actually tried it through a pillow.

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        • #19
          ScottsBad
          Progressives Suck!
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • May 2009
          • 5610

          Originally posted by sonofeugene
          So your idea is that we should leave our bedroom without glasses of a light to see with? Why not just keep your eyes closed as well?

          I someone is concerned about not grabbing the gun first, then do so. Then, if you have the time, put your glasses on and grab a light so you don't shoot your daughter. And put on some ear pro as well.
          Depends on what type of vision problem and how bad your vision is. I wear glasses, but my vision is worse close up. I can still put round on target with iron sights, because the distances are close. I also keep my RDS on for my rifle. A blurry dot works fine for me.

          I always leave two LED lights on in the house at night, they barely use any power, and they keep bad guys wondering if anyone is home and awake.

          My rifle and pistol also have lights.

          I've never heard of an instance when a home defender put on hearing protection, or lost their hearing when they didn't. If it was that big an issue the shooting community would be talking about it more. And there would be products to address the time it takes to protect your ears.

          I would feel really bad if a family member were harmed because I took the extra time to put on ear muffs. I would never forgive myself for being more concerned about my hearing than my family.

          Just saying.
          sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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          • #20
            The Fugitive
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 666

            Keep it real...

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            • #21
              ScottsBad
              Progressives Suck!
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              • May 2009
              • 5610

              Originally posted by theLBC
              lol, i can point shoot and hit a 6" target every time at interior distances, although i have never actually tried it through a pillow.
              Right. Try that while keeping a pillow attached to the end of your muzzle. Try MyPillow.com. LOL

              Hitting anything is whole lot harder when its hostile, moving, and fights back.

              You have to be realistic about this. And when you look at the data about shooting under that kind of stress. The studies that have been done, etc. The reality is that its a completely different can of worms.

              Practice simply gives the process of addressing a threat with some mussel memory, and technique. Shooting at a live target, under enormous stress is why cops typically miss a LOT.

              BTW Cops don't typically stop to put on ear protection. LOL I wrote this before I saw the movie clip. ^^^ Funny as hell
              Last edited by ScottsBad; 02-27-2021, 12:03 PM.
              sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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              • #22
                ScottsBad
                Progressives Suck!
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • May 2009
                • 5610

                He's a question for everyone:

                If you were conceal carrying your favorite pistol. Would you stop to worry about hearing protection if someone with a knife were about to stab an innocent.
                Last edited by ScottsBad; 02-27-2021, 12:01 PM.
                sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                • #23
                  Barang
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 12406

                  if you never been in this dreaded situation before like most of us, i don't think you'll have that mental focus to unfold the ep, put it on, turn it on, grab the gun and investigate. but it is nice to have one nearby if you're able and have time to put it on.

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                  • #24
                    sonofeugene
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 4438

                    Originally posted by GeeBee49
                    I don't need my glasses to see the short distances that a HD situation would involve. I don't need a flashlight because I keep a small lamp on in the living room. An intruder would have to go through the living room to get to the bedrooms.
                    I don't plan on using hearing protection because in a HD situation hearing is more important to me than seeing. As I've said in other similar posts, I will grab my gun and then take up one of two predetermined defensive positions and wait. Hearing the intruder's movements will tell me where he is and if he is coming my way.
                    That is the plan I've had as long as I've lived in this house. Other people's plans may differ.
                    That's more or less what I'm saying....that's your plan and others may plan differently. Some people, for instance, can't see ***** without their glasses. Not everyone leaves a light on. Or the intruder turns it off. And hearing protection should be high end electronic so that it actually works and doesn't shut off completely when a shot is fired.
                    Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                    A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                    Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                    • #25
                      GeeBee49
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 1981

                      Originally posted by sonofeugene
                      That's more or less what I'm saying....that's your plan and others may plan differently. Some people, for instance, can't see ***** without their glasses. Not everyone leaves a light on. Or the intruder turns it off. And hearing protection should be high end electronic so that it actually works and doesn't shut off completely when a shot is fired.
                      I agree, everyone has a different situation. Many have children so that's a whole different deal that I don't have. When my son comes home after having a few beers with his friends he makes so much noise that I know immediately who it is.

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                      • #26
                        ScottsBad
                        Progressives Suck!
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                        • May 2009
                        • 5610

                        Originally posted by Epaphroditus
                        Suppressor.
                        If only....
                        sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                        • #27
                          theLBC
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 6870

                          Originally posted by ScottsBad
                          Right. Try that while keeping a pillow attached to the end of your muzzle. Try MyPillow.com. LOL

                          Hitting anything is whole lot harder when its hostile, moving, and fights back.

                          You have to be realistic about this. And when you look at the data about shooting under that kind of stress. The studies that have been done, etc. The reality is that its a completely different can of worms.

                          Practice simply gives the process of addressing a threat with some mussel memory, and technique. Shooting at a live target, under enormous stress is why cops typically miss a LOT.

                          BTW Cops don't typically stop to put on ear protection. LOL I wrote this before I saw the movie clip. ^^^ Funny as hell
                          if you couldn't tell, i was joking about the pillow.
                          i would never destroy my pillow.

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                          • #28
                            NapalmCheese
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5953

                            Originally posted by ScottsBad
                            I don't know if you know this but most soldiers do not wear their hearing protection. Some suffer severe hearing loss, but most do not. Apparently, auditory exclusion does have some protective attributes
                            Your assertion about auditory exclusion presumably offering some hearing protection is demonstrably incorrect. A brief search of medical journals will confirm this. However hearing loss is never a definite thing. It's a complex and multifaceted problem of duration and impulse, and even then no single event will definitely cause hearing loss. Instead hearing loss is a statistical issue where there is a chance that any single loud event can cause permanent hearing damage, and any prolonged not so loud event can cause hearing damage; but neither will DEFINITELY cause hearing damage. How many hunters do you know without hearing loss? How many with? I would wager a decent mix.

                            I know some door kickers from the Navy and the Marines, and I know some infantry from the Marines. I've asked them about hearing pro. Most have some amount of hearing loss from not wearing ear pro when it would have been useful. Most of the door kickers thought that wearing hearing pro was tactically advantageous (it was part of their comms equipment anyway) because it meant you could speak to people during and after action. Of the vets I know the ones with the worst hearing damage tend to have been truck drivers, worked on airplanes, or otherwise had a lot of exposure to prolonged noise rather than impulse events.

                            No matter, as I said, you have to be alive to hear. Don't let a lack of hearing protection prevent you from defending your life or the life of your loved one. But... if you PLANNING on getting into a gun fight, you might as well put on some ear pro.

                            For my own job I have to get hearing tests done once a year to monitor any degradation. I've listened to loud music, I've been to drag races, I've shot guns all without ear pro. By and large however I wear ear pro when I can, including band practice, duck hunting, and at the races. I won't let lack of ear pro prevent me from shooting if necessary, but if I CAN put in ear pro prior, I will.

                            It seems that younger generations are more likely to insist on ear pro prior to every taking a shot, hopefully that doesn't include defensive shooting.
                            Last edited by NapalmCheese; 02-27-2021, 12:36 PM.
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                            • #29
                              beanz2
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12032

                              I have sensitive ears, so...



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                              The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                              • #30
                                paddyraid
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2017
                                • 568

                                Originally posted by sonofeugene
                                If you're really rushed, your life will trump your hearing.

                                However, if you have the extra seconds, hearing protection can be very advantages.

                                I have some electronic muffs hanging at my side table.

                                absolutely, life over hearing. muffs by my bedside now.

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