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  • Sir_Ricardo
    Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 131

    Ghost guns - need info

    Greetings -

    I have been hearing about ghost guns, and it "appears" the main "problem" is that you can buy "almost fully built" receivers, receivers that have no serial #, without the use of an FFL.

    Is this right? Obviously, if you have the skill, I suppose you could take a steel blank and machine it into the receiver, but that is a skill set / tool set that few people have.

    But if you can simply buy a receiver......so, my question is two-fold.

    1) is this the main way to "make" a ghost gun?

    and

    2) where do you get these "almost finished but not serialized" receivers?

    Because I've bought guns at auction, and on Gunbroker, etc., but I've never seen one of these "almost finished" receivers.


    I'm trying to figure out how big of a problem this is. Since I've never even seen a "listing" for such a receiver, I guess I'm somewhat skeptical.

    But I want to learn.

    Please advise.

    thanks - Sir Ricardo
    Last edited by Sir_Ricardo; 02-11-2021, 7:26 PM.
  • #2
    SoldierLife7
    Joe Exotic For President
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2013
    • 2420

    The first step is to move to a free state...

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    • #3
      P5Ret
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 6368

      Google 80% receiver, you'll find where to buy them. In fact you may be overwhelmed with just how many places sell them.

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      • #4
        Quickdraw559
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1890

        The ATF is tracking you now. They have your dog in the crosshairs as we speak. The best thing you can do is delete this thread and be sorry you even thought of doing such a thing.
        WTB Oakhurst stamped CZ firearms
        WTB 12 gauge Wingmasters

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57083

          Originally posted by Sir_Ricardo
          Greetings -

          I have been hearing about ghost guns, and it "appears" the main "problem" is that you can buy "almost fully built" receivers, receivers that have no serial #, without the use of an FFL.

          Is this right? Obviously, if you have the skill, I suppose you could take a steel blank and machine it into the receiver, but that is a skill set / tool set that few people have.

          But if you can simply buy a receiver......so, my question is two-fold.

          1) is this the main way to "make" a ghost gun?

          and

          2) where do you get these "almost finished but not serialized" receivers?

          Because I've bought guns at auction, and on Gunbroker, etc., but I've never seen one of these "almost finished" receivers.

          I'm trying to figure out how big of a problem this is. Since I've never even seen a "listing" for such a receiver, I guess I'm somewhat skeptical.

          But I want to learn.

          Please advise.
          It's not legal to make your own receiver/firearm in CA without first requesting a serial number and submitting all the details of the gun for registration.
          Since that's the rule now, it's no longer as appealing to build your own receivers/firearms.
          Randall Rausch

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          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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          • #6
            Widdle
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2011
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            • #7
              CWL
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2009
              • 1488

              OP, have you just been rescued from a deserted island?
              Vae Victis

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              • #8
                edgerly779
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 19871

                OP likely been in a coma to not have heard all this. Ship sailed on ghost guns years ago. use 80% lowers in search an do a lot of reading.

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                • #9
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19258

                  I know the search function on cal guns is not perfect- but give it a go

                  Lots of info on assembling ones own firearms and such

                  While you have a ton of restrictions in CA, you can also read the old posts to understand the history of what use to be allowed and done in ca.



                  If you hop onto YouTube there are people making videos of their home built guns all around the world.

                  While the honest were disarmed in Australia, the gangs all still seem to end up with home built firearms.
                  Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                  Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                  Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                  Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                  (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                  • #10
                    Bill Carson
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3574

                    Originally posted by Quickdraw559
                    The ATF is tracking you now. They have your dog in the crosshairs as we speak. The best thing you can do is delete this thread and be sorry you even thought of doing such a thing.
                    Plot twist. The OP is ATF

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                    • #11
                      Bill Carson
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3574

                      Originally posted by Sir_Ricardo
                      Greetings -

                      I have been hearing about ghost guns, and it "appears" the main "problem" is that you can buy "almost fully built" receivers, receivers that have no serial #, without the use of an FFL.

                      Is this right? Obviously, if you have the skill, I suppose you could take a steel blank and machine it into the receiver, but that is a skill set / tool set that few people have.

                      But if you can simply buy a receiver......so, my question is two-fold.

                      1) is this the main way to "make" a ghost gun?

                      and

                      2) where do you get these "almost finished but not serialized" receivers?

                      Because I've bought guns at auction, and on Gunbroker, etc., but I've never seen one of these "almost finished" receivers.


                      I'm trying to figure out how big of a problem this is. Since I've never even seen a "listing" for such a receiver, I guess I'm somewhat skeptical.

                      But I want to learn.

                      Please advise.

                      thanks - Sir Ricardo
                      Your question ( fishing expedition ) is suspect at best. You sound like a FED trying to entrap someone.

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                      • #12
                        tabascoz28
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 3364

                        They are called 80%, they make lowers and frames for popular guns such as glocks and even steel ones for sig and 1911 frames. One that makes glocks just got raided and the ATF could have the customer list of those people. They do it for full auto parts for glocks and auto sears for ARs and could come a knockin' if you buy them. There are even plans for them to be 3d printed and some guy just got caught with one of those, a 3d printed frame.

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                        • #13
                          badicedog
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3157

                          Originally posted by Bill Carson
                          Your question ( fishing expedition ) is suspect at best. You sound like a FED trying to entrap someone.
                          NOT today boys, NOT today....lol
                          "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

                          ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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                          • #14
                            kcheung2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4387

                            How is it a problem that people can buy almost-guns?
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                            "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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                            • #15
                              tabascoz28
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 3364

                              Iran almost has nukes...

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