inter family transfer

[morrcarr67]

In that case you should wait. If both your son and you are CA residents all you would need to do is fill out the OpLaw form or file them on the CFARS website.

You should also make sure that your son was not considered a CA while he lived in AZ. If for some reason CA could consider him a resident of CA while he was in AZ it changes what he can bring back with him without the need of using an FFL himself.

[SkyHawk]

Here's the thing though, CA DOJ may not accept you trying to register a lower as a pistol out of the blue. It will be easier if they already have some record showing how it got here as a pistol.

My opinion - Honestly it would be better if your son sent it in to a CA FFL for transfer to you *before* he moves here.

Barring that, he should register it as a pistol when he moves here then do the intrafamily transfer to you after he gets the confirmation from DOJ which could take up to a year.

If it were me I would do option #1, and I would ask him for a couple of lowers as a gift not just one. Yes it will cost you transfer fees but be worth it.

The other thing - I would not want to DROS or register a frame only handgun and then later be found with it built out as a semi auto. The gold standard is that he sends *complete* semi auto pistols to your CA FFL for a roster exempt intra-family transfer.

[M1NM]

Inter family transfers (between different families) are standard FFL transfers. Intrafamilial transfers (transfers within the same family vertically in the lineage) are exempt and may be done by mailing paperwork to the DOJ.

ONLY if BOTH parties live in CA. ALL interstate transfer of firearms require it be completed through an FFL per Federal law.

[ar15barrels]

Contact a CA FFL dealer that knows about and is willing to conduct an out-of-state intra-familial gift transfer.
^Nearest to Los Alamitos... IMO, contact RifleGear in Fountain Valley or Shoot SoCal Firearms & Training in Fullerton.

Tell them the types of firearms being gifted to you and they will DROS it accordingly.
^off-Roster Glock semi-auto pistol and off-Roster Brownells semi-auto AR pistol receiver.

Your AZ son should include a copy of his valid AZ DL/ID and a gift letter with the firearms.
^ Gift letter should state his name and relationship to you and the firearms (make, model, serial number) being gifted.
~Example...out-of-state intra-familial gift letter format used by UG imports in Fremont CA.

Firearms can not include any large capacity magazines.

To add one more chink in all this armor from information gleaned via PM's; his Arizona STEP-SON has the lower.

[SkyHawk]

To add one more chink in all this armor from information gleaned via PM's; his Arizona STEP-SON has the lower.

Hoo boy. Step-son don't work for intra-family unless adopted, IIRC

[ar15barrels]

Hoo boy. Step-son don't work for intra-family unless adopted, IIRC

I don't think even adopted works.
I thought it was supposed to be direct bloodline.

[SkyHawk]

I don't think even adopted works.
I thought it was supposed to be direct bloodline.

This is what I was thinking of, I think it defines the parent/child relationship mentioned in 16720

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=FAM&division=12.&title=&part=3.&chapter=1.&article=

"Parent and child relationship” as used in this part means the legal relationship existing between a child and the child’s natural or adoptive parents incident to which the law confers or imposes rights, privileges, duties, and obligations. The term includes the mother and child relationship and the father and child relationship.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=16720.

As used in this part, “immediate family member” means either of the following relationships:
(a) Parent and child.

[Quiet]

To add one more chink in all this armor from information gleaned via PM's; his Arizona STEP-SON has the lower.

I did not realize it was his step-son.

Step-son does not qualify for the intra-familial exemptions.

One last thing, my son is moving back to CA. With that said, should I wait until he’s a resident?

If for some reason your step-son is considered a CA resident while he was an AZ resident (such as maintaing a valid CA DL/ID or owning property in CA), then CA will consider him a CA resident during his duration as an AZ resident.
This means he will not be considered a new resident of CA when he moved back to CA and any firearm he brings from AZ to CA must be done through (DROS/10 day wait) a CA FFL dealer.
^Handguns must be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it (C&R, OTP, SAE, SSE2).
Failure to utilize a CA FFL dealer equates to a CA misdemeanor per long gun and a CA felony per handgun.

If CA does not consider him a returning CA resident, then after your step-son establishes residency in CA, he can then PPT the firearms to you through a CA FFL dealer.