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  • #16
    Patriot Justice
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2020
    • 33

    Here's my last message to the seller and his reply. I'll let you all decide my next course of action.. in a previous message, I asked the seller, What brand scope was on the upper" he said it was a Vortex and it's in fact a Primary Arms in the pics he provided.. check out his reply when I notified him. Should I just walk away or see what happens next? Thanks.. and God Bless..

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patriot Justice
    I've seen that upper before. You sent me fake pics. That's a primary arms scope in that pic.. and that gun was built by a man on yourtube called Jerrbear tactical... look familiar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3ojEUcCMBs


    unless you can prove otherwise. I will give you the chance to explain one time and then I send my report to Calguns.

    Reply---> I got he notification. I had to park to answer this. I'm a DIEHARD fan of Jerrbear tactical, I have his nametag back home too.

    Thought I had my Vortex on the rails, I'd send pictures of the upper, vortex and primary arms together with a time stamp and your name on it. I'm not sure sending my ID card is a good idea.

    Will be home at 5. What's your cell? I'd put a call through to you.
    Last edited by Patriot Justice; 02-06-2021, 10:33 AM. Reason: added break to reply..

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    • #17
      Mr. Beretta
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2005
      • 6614

      Originally posted by Patriot Justice
      Here's my last message to the seller and his reply. I'll let you all decide my next course of action.. in a previous message, I asked the seller, What brand scope was on the upper" he said it was a Vortex and it's in fact a Primary Arms in the pics he provided.. check out his reply when I notified him. Should I just walk away or see what happens next? Thanks.. and God Bless..

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Patriot Justice
      I've seen that upper before. You sent me fake pics. That's a primary arms scope in that pic.. and that gun was built by a man on yourtube called Jerrbear tactical... look familiar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3ojEUcCMBs


      unless you can prove otherwise. I will give you the chance to explain one time and then I send my report to Calguns.

      Reply---> I got he notification. I had to park to answer this. I'm a DIEHARD fan of Jerrbear tactical, I have his nametag back home too.

      Thought I had my Vortex on the rails, I'd send pictures of the upper, vortex and primary arms together with a time stamp and your name on it. I'm not sure sending my ID card is a good idea.

      Will be home at 5. What's your cell? I'd put a call through to you.
      OP

      Why are you wasting your time?

      I guess you're not interested in the advice you asked for.

      The next step is wasting your money.

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      • #18
        SkyHawk
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2012
        • 23507

        Post the user name or we cannot help you. We need to see the 2 iTrader feedback he has, who left them, when, and for what. And we need to see any of his posts anywhere on the forum. The details matter when it comes to spotting a scammer. The iTrader count means little when it is so low, it could have been left by sock puppet accounts.
        Last edited by SkyHawk; 02-06-2021, 11:43 AM.
        Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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        • #19
          MARKFP
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 529

          It's surely sad that it has come to this on the market place but I guess it's a sign of the times. When I joined, just jumped in, nobody questioned me and I had good times. Maybe I was lucky but met a ton of great people and never even hinted like I was going to be stung. My itrader should be about double and through all of those dealings only got stood up once, after a 3 hour drive but so be it. Sorry to all for crashing post, but read countless threads about this. Also crazy that with all I read there is still so many newbs that can't think for themselves or need so much advise on how to navigate a situation.
          Oh no, not another 1911 !
          "You can't have a good argument with an ignorant person"....My Dad

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          • #20
            Patriot Justice
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 33

            Big thanks to everyone that responded to my post. Sorry for being such a newb and needing the help. I honestly didn't know where to look or how to navigate and find similar posts. To comment on the last post, I can think for myself, but when everything is sold out and a seller responds to your WTB ad with something back ordered until 9/30/2021, it makes you think about taking chances. I'm glad I didn't roll the dice and I learned a lot about what to look for and what not to do here. This particular seller has a Itrader rating of 2 and 9 posts. All the posts are just comments in discussion areas and the ratings are from users that joined around the same time as seller within days of each other. Doesn't prove anything, but all red flags. needless to say, way to risky. Thanks again and God bless...

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            • #21
              BigPimping
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 21441

              You're about to get ripped off homeboy.
              sigpic

              PIMP stands for Positive Intellectual Motivated Person

              When pimping begins, friendship ends.

              Don't let your history be a mystery

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              • #22
                Sir Toast
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 3140

                Originally posted by BigPimping
                You're about to get ripped off homeboy.
                No sh*t

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                • #23
                  Endless
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1881

                  Originally posted by Patriot Justice
                  Big thanks to everyone that responded to my post. Sorry for being such a newb and needing the help. I honestly didn't know where to look or how to navigate and find similar posts. To comment on the last post, I can think for myself, but when everything is sold out and a seller responds to your WTB ad with something back ordered until 9/30/2021, it makes you think about taking chances. I'm glad I didn't roll the dice and I learned a lot about what to look for and what not to do here. This particular seller has a Itrader rating of 2 and 9 posts. All the posts are just comments in discussion areas and the ratings are from users that joined around the same time as seller within days of each other. Doesn't prove anything, but all red flags. needless to say, way to risky. Thanks again and God bless...
                  So what was the username?

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                  • #24
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19572

                    No seller in their right mind is going to sell to you unless you pay first. So if you don't want to do that I suggest you get your driving shoes on and go look at the next one you find.

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                    • #25
                      Mr. Blue
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 2502

                      I would also like to buy anything anyone has for sale at any price. I will pay you once its shipped to me.
                      https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                      • #26
                        AregularGuy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2792

                        Originally posted by Endless
                        So what was the username?
                        Yes, please report to the mods. The response to WTB ads is getting more sophisticated. The responders are sticking around for a while, post on mundane topics or even gun topics, but nothing with any red flags for a scammer. I'd imagine there are even fake iTrader numbers being boosted by shill accounts.

                        Other than you spotting the fake pics, which is common, NO seller is going to work that hard with you to get you to buy his stuff. Send pics with different scopes and time stamps, etc? Any real seller is going to tell you to piss off. GLad you asked beforehand rather than come on afterward to cry about it.
                        All posts dedicated to the memory of Stronzo Bestiale

                        "You want my sister but now scam my Glocks too?
                        How about my sister? what can she do now? Still virgin and need Glcok."

                        ---ARegularGuy

                        NRA Patron Member

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                        • #27
                          Mr. Beretta
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 6614

                          So what was the username?

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                          • #28
                            hermosabeach
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 19258

                            Serious question- do you know how to inspect an upper?

                            Are you receiving 6061 or 7075 parts on that upper?
                            Who made the barrel? If the seller said it’s a colt- can you check?
                            If advertised as 1:7 or 1:9- can you check?

                            Some people only buy face to face when dealing with used.
                            Some people buy when the seller has a strong history of buying and selling.
                            Some buy new with a warranty from a tier one or two manufacturer
                            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                            • #29
                              naz
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2020
                              • 3108

                              Tbh, OP, buy in person or wait for a shop to get I back in stock

                              Everyone will ask you to pay up front due to your 0 itrader rating

                              Also, just putting it out there that bear creek arsenal has complete 308 upper in stock for about $700 shipped. That’s probably the path of least resistance

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