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  • #31
    LBDamned
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    • Feb 2011
    • 19040

    Originally posted by nedro
    Well in his defense, some people discuss guns. Others shoot them.
    The first time I heard the term was at a shooting class.

    Imagine that.
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    • #32
      Dan_Eastvale
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      • Apr 2013
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      Most civilian shooters thinking about combat, plinking, or deer hunting?
      Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 01-31-2021, 2:46 PM.

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      • #33
        SanDiego619
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        • Jan 2013
        • 14865

        Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
        Until today I had never heard this term in the shooting community. However, it made me wonder why folks who don't understand something or it seems silly to them come up with a demeaning title for it, i.e.: "Chicken wing", "idiot scratch", etc.
        But, I've only been shooting for 50+ years so I'm still learning...
        It wasn't meant to be demeaning. It was always called "chicken wing" by people I was with, all of them military. They had to remind me not to chicken wing every time I aimed. So I wondered why it felt like the natural way to hold the gun to so many of us.

        Not criticising holding it like that, and I've learned from this thread that it is the "best" way to hold the gun in some situations. Tucked is better in others.

        I am not criticising chicken wings or demeaning chicken wingers or anything!! I only wondered why my elbow always wants to poke out whenever I hold a rifle.

        LBDamned answered my actual question, and I learned from the other answers as well.

        My apologies to the chickens, they have beautiful wings.
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        • #34
          k1dude
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          • May 2009
          • 16188

          Up until about the 60's or 70's, pretty much everyone was taught to shoot a rifle or shotgun with your elbow out between about 45 to 90 degrees when standing.

          This method was taught to me by both my grandfather who fought in WWI and my father who fought in WWII through Vietnam. It was also being taught in the military when I enlisted way back when.

          It's still taught at Appleseed.
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          • #35
            RayPDA
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            • Sep 2011
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            • #36
              Preston-CLB
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              • Apr 2018
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              Up until about the 60's or 70's, pretty much everyone was taught to shoot a rifle or shotgun with your elbow out between about 45 to 90 degrees when standing.
              That is what I was taught both by my dad, and in the USAF. Same time period as noted in the quote.
              -P
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              • #37
                librarian72
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                • Jan 2017
                • 392

                You sure they aren't mad operators super chicken winging to use use their irons yo?

                Or possibly just orienting the brakes to annoy the lane next to them.
                Originally posted by Librarian
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                • #38
                  003
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                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3436

                  Been involved in the shooting sports for over 65 years.

                  Four years in the Marine Corps, early/middle 60's and 35 years as a cop and today is the first time I have ever heard the term "chicken wing" used in this context.

                  Must be the same folks that refuse to use the term slide release.

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                  • #39
                    Librarian
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44697

                    Originally posted by Preston-CLB
                    That is what I was taught both by my dad, and in the USAF. Same time period as noted in the quote.
                    -P
                    I was taught the same. Interestingly, my wife naturally uses the square-to-target, elbow-down stance.
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                    • #40
                      LBDamned
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 19040

                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      I was taught the same. Interestingly, my wife naturally uses the square-to-target, elbow-down stance.
                      Smart lady
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                      • #41
                        colt11
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 697

                        The Commander at PSPD would say: imagine you have a weight on a string pulling your elbow down.

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                        • #42
                          OlderThanDirt
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                          • Jun 2009
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                          • #43
                            Regular guy
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                            • Oct 2011
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                            • #44
                              200Apples
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 7217

                              Originally posted by Donkeypunch0420

                              I think people copy what they see in action movies, kind of like how I almost always see new shooters in a Weaver stance. They saw it in movie or a tv show.

                              Is this why you still use the "cup-and-saucer" handgun hold?

                              Wake up! man. It's not 1979 any more.

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                              • #45
                                hermosabeach
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 19892

                                Chicken wing makes a pocket for the stock to sit for 90% of people.
                                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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