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  • #16
    Alanski56
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 229

    If you uplan on reloading any time in the future, and you probably will, you might want to consider a brand that doesn't crimp the primers. I know American Eagle does and the mil-spec (for lack of a better term) does. I don't know about PMC, however. I've removed the primer crimps from a lot of Lake City brass (American Eagle) over the years and it's an extra step in the reloading process (only needs to be done once) and is a major PITA. For me, at least. The quality of Lake City brass is very good, however. Just like everything else, there are trade offs.

    Have a nice evening.

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    • #17
      rod
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 2245

      Wolf.
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      • #18
        3GunFunShooter
        In Memoriam
        • Dec 2005
        • 2408

        American Eagle, PMC Bronze, Guat mil-surplus.
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        • #19
          PolishMike
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 6034

          Wolf.

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          • #20
            BigBamBoo
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            • Apr 2008
            • 5215

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            • #21
              hkusp9c
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 690

              pmc bronze and remington umc

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              • #22
                ck867
                Banned
                • Nov 2008
                • 1235

                if you were strictly using it for plinking and do not have plans to reload, I would get wolf.

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                • #23
                  Electric Factory
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 1855

                  Originally posted by ck867
                  if you were strictly using it for plinking and do not have plans to reload, I would get wolf.
                  wolf isn't an option since reloading is a factor.

                  I forgot to ask about Fiocchi and it's interesting no one else has either. Aside from being more expensive [ 31.00+ for a 50rnd box], how does Fiocchi 223 compare to the PMC Bronze/ American Eagle / XM193 55gr debate ?

                  From the consensus so far it would appear that PMC Bronze gets the nod for best value/ bang for your buck in 55gr 223 ammo.

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                  • #24
                    cgseanp1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4651

                    Originally posted by Electric Factory
                    wolf isn't an option since reloading is a factor.

                    I forgot to ask about Fiocchi and it's interesting no one else has either. Aside from being more expensive [ 31.00+ for a 50rnd box], how does Fiocchi 223 compare to the PMC Bronze/ American Eagle / XM193 55gr debate ?

                    From the consensus so far it would appear that PMC Bronze gets the nod for best value/ bang for your buck in 55gr 223 ammo.
                    Fiocchi can be had for a lot cheaper than that, just a few weeks ago Palmetto State armory had it for $400 per 1000, or $20 per 50. And I think the best value right now is the Centurion, it can be had for less than 400 delivered to your door.
                    Here you go, buy it quick:

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                    • #25
                      Apollo
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 868

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                      • #26
                        aplinker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 16762

                        The real answer is that the differences between cheap 55gr FMJ ammo aren't enough to constitute paying a cent more for one over the other... with one exception.

                        If you're planning to store or save for SHTF, it's better to use XM193 or M193 clones, as they're sealed for moisture.

                        If you'll be shooting any sooner than the next 3 years, buy CHEAP.

                        PS - this only applies to new ammo. Reloads vary WIDELY.

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