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  • newStar
    Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 133

    who is responsible to make sure the online purchased gun is California compliant?

    Buyer, seller or FFL, who is responsible for the online ordered firearms are on the California roster?
  • #2
    1320Fastback
    Member
    • Feb 2019
    • 199

    Buyer I would think.

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    • #3
      hellayella
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2012
      • 5578

      Buyer

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      • #4
        harbormaster
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 4868

        Sellers seem to take it seriously if they aren’t individuals. I just exchanged about 7 emails with an out of state seller convincing them the gun I wanted was on the roster - they initially refused saying it wasn’t.
        1. Compared to what?
        2. At what cost?
        3. What hard evidence do you have?

        T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30241

          Originally posted by newStar
          who is responsible to make sure the online purchased gun is California compliant?

          Buyer, seller or FFL, who is responsible for the online ordered firearms are on the California roster?
          The buyer.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            SigzHour
            Junior Member
            • May 2020
            • 48

            Buyer from what I’ve seen.

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            • #7
              newStar
              Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 133

              Originally posted by Quiet
              The buyer.
              Is this the latest link for all hand gun roster: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certifie...ch?make=151003

              What kind of key information normally we use to check? I am sure we can use the SKU number but many of the rostered guns do not have such SKU number listed, rather just the names. If we look online list, often we can match partially the name strings but not exactly/completely for the entire name strings. Wondering how to be 100% sure the online listed guns are on the roster if we have such partial name matching. Is there somewhere we can ask?

              Also, the link above seems to be for handguns only, where can we find the roster for other firearms, like rifles and shotguns?

              Thanks

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              • #8
                n8vrmind
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 1436

                No "handgun style roster" for rifle and shotgun, but they must be CA compliant.

                Try searching sticky treads or Google "California assault weapon flowchart". A reputable local FFL can also guide you through.
                Last edited by n8vrmind; 01-22-2021, 1:00 AM.

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                • #9
                  Lonestargrizzly
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 6502

                  Buyer...

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30241

                    Originally posted by newStar
                    Is this the latest link for all hand gun roster: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certifie...ch?make=151003

                    What kind of key information normally we use to check? I am sure we can use the SKU number but many of the rostered guns do not have such SKU number listed, rather just the names. If we look online list, often we can match partially the name strings but not exactly/completely for the entire name strings. Wondering how to be 100% sure the online listed guns are on the roster if we have such partial name matching. Is there somewhere we can ask?

                    Also, the link above seems to be for handguns only, where can we find the roster for other firearms, like rifles and shotguns?

                    Thanks
                    CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale

                    Handguns need to exactly match what is listed.
                    ^Make, model, color, type, barrel length, caliber.

                    There is no roster for rifles or shotguns.
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                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                    • #11
                      tabascoz28
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 3362

                      Buyer
                      FFL is legally required to verify otherwise it will ship it back to the seller at your cost.

                      Seller is responsible if they are advertising it as CA Compliant. I have purchased many that say they are and use them to verify with other stores that don't mark up the price only because it is CA Compliant.

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                      • #12
                        audiophil2
                        Senior Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8736

                        A seller with half a brain would be responsible. I know CA laws better than most CA FFLs.
                        When somoen wants to buy form me I make sure it is legal on the roster or an offlist long gun that can be converted. Would be a waste of my time to not take the 5 minutes to verify i can ship. I have never needed to have a gun sent back to me. Only times i had guns sent back was when the CA FFL had no idea what he was doing.
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                        • #13
                          Mr. Beretta
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 6613

                          Buyer!

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                          • #14
                            deephouse
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3851

                            Why does the so called CA compliant Juggernaut tactical featureless grip come to mind here....

                            They have instilled in the minds of many that is GTG...


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                            • #15
                              Enzo rules
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 771

                              My experience has been the buyer.

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