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  • #46
    1911RONIN
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    • Mar 2011
    • 1948

    Stop posting in stupid threads


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    • #47
      Dvrjon
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      • Nov 2012
      • 11335

      Originally posted by 1911RONIN
      Stop posting in stupid threads

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      • #48
        Dvrjon
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        • Nov 2012
        • 11335

        Originally posted by anthracite
        Wow, advertised on Instagram. How do these LEO get in trouble, reported?
        some ways:

        1. They advertise on Instagram.
        2. Folks who bought guns are arrested for stuff. They flip on the seller.
        3. Gun sales are recorded. When a transfer comes in, the gun is checked against the Registry which shows the previous owner. If the previous owner has a bunch of off-roster purchases on file, they can run those guns against recent transfers. If the records show the guns were flipped, an investigation opens.

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        • #49
          mikeinla
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          • Aug 2007
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          • #50
            Mendo223
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1536

            Ive been scoring deals on gen4 very good condition glocks the past 3 months, got them all under 1k, cheaper then the gen3s that were in consignment case.

            The only real out of control upcharge is on special ones like Sig P320 legion, FNX, and the HK VP9 is pretty out of control i see them for 2k on calguns and $800 buy it now on gunbroker...

            If i was a cop looking to resell i wouldnt waste my transfers on glocks anymore, except maybe the slim stack MOS, but focus entirely on the SIG p320, m17/18, legions since you can make 1500 versus only $500 upcharge on gen4 glocks

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            • #51
              The Gleam
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 12388

              Not really.

              Depends on you, what you know, and what you're shopping for on either guns or ammo. Otherwise your statement is too generalized.
              -----------------------------------------------
              Originally posted by Librarian
              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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              • #52
                compulsivegunbuyer
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 2571

                Another10 years, and no one in California will own a gun.

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                • #53
                  707FreedomFan
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 91

                  Yes, it's laughable.
                  Sorry, let me clarify-

                  Guy A has off roster handgun priced 2-3x msrp, sells in California to guy B, who has the money and is willing to make the purchase (BECAUSE HE HAS NO OTHER LEGAL OPTION) making it a supply/demand price.
                  The price is laughable.
                  The situation... maybe it's laughable where you can find levity in tragedy..

                  The broader situation, where guys are panicked to get stuff they don't really need, that's also laughable if you can find levity in tragedy..

                  The minute I left the state (as a resident) everything changed. While nationally we now are facing some sort of similar threats (the base idea/fear of it is the same) and being emotionally manipulated to engage in fear driven commerce, I can at least fully and clearly recognize the laughability and simultaneous tragedy of it all.

                  I just proposed a stimulus funded ammunition co-op and had ******** negative replies, one clearly showing the mindset which this thread is full of.

                  Obviously, like anything, the noisy ones create the tone in the room. I would like to believe guys spending an extra $1000 for an extra handgun that doesn't benefit them anything except an investment or showpiece over what is still available I'm CA, could have put that money towards fighting the roster(naive and optimistic, I know) which some pessimists identifying as realists would find laughable.

                  Ah, a community divided..

                  I suggest if you can dig deep, those who find it laughable, should consider relocating. No regrets.

                  Those who find the fight naive and foolhardy(don't get defensive, it's your out!).. you should buy up those triple profit pistols and support the side hustle of unlicensed gun dealing industry, if that makes you happy.

                  After all, it's just economics ignoring politics.. just like lockdowns are 'just science' disregarding economics and freedom.

                  Love you guys,
                  707 out


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                  • #54
                    Mendo223
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1536

                    Damn some of those guys were selling directly from LEO to civillian how the hell did they think that wouldnt be tracked??

                    All they had to due was just pay for an FFL license, what do those run?

                    Im assuming its ok as long as you dont get greedy and just do your 6 transactions per year...

                    They can still make good money and do it legally, those cops got lazy and underestimated the power of the fun police...

                    Either way, funny how they chastize that one cop for having a SIG MPX when hes a freakin LEO, and regular old civvies in any other free state can pack that same gun legally.

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                    • #55
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57101

                      Originally posted by Mendo223
                      All they had to due was just pay for an FFL license, what do those run?

                      They can still make good money and do it legally, those cops got lazy and underestimated the power of the fun police...
                      It's not that simple...
                      If they had gotten an FFL, they would NOT be able to sell off-roster handguns because they would be bound by the terms of the roster.
                      The roster limits LICENSED DEALERS from selling off-roster handguns to the public.

                      Also, you need more than just an FFL to sell guns in CA.
                      You need all the state stuff too.
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                      • #56
                        ths916m3
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2020
                        • 15

                        Originally posted by Mendo223
                        Damn some of those guys were selling directly from LEO to civillian how the hell did they think that wouldnt be tracked??

                        All they had to due was just pay for an FFL license, what do those run?

                        Im assuming its ok as long as you dont get greedy and just do your 6 transactions per year...

                        They can still make good money and do it legally, those cops got lazy and underestimated the power of the fun police...

                        Either way, funny how they chastize that one cop for having a SIG MPX when hes a freakin LEO, and regular old civvies in any other free state can pack that same gun legally.
                        I think that is where the problem is. Any LEO I've talked to said it is frowned upon buying and selling firearms. I've heard anything turned around inside a year throws up red flags (not sure how true that is.) If they wanted to do it right it involves a long amount of time and the right "investment" (firearm) that likely wont be on roster in 3+ years.

                        If I was an LEO, I wouldn't risk my career, but I'm not, so if they want to sell me a off roster firearm for a good price, I would gladly not say who I got it from.
                        James

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                        • #57
                          AregularGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2792

                          Originally posted by ths916m3
                          I think that is where the problem is. Any LEO I've talked to said it is frowned upon buying and selling firearms. I've heard anything turned around inside a year throws up red flags (not sure how true that is.) If they wanted to do it right it involves a long amount of time and the right "investment" (firearm) that likely wont be on roster in 3+ years.

                          If I was an LEO, I wouldn't risk my career, but I'm not, so if they want to sell me a off roster firearm for a good price, I would gladly not say who I got it from.
                          Perception is everything so I can imagine it's frowned upon. The optics are bad, like PD's selling their old turn-ins. It will be like a game of telephone. One sale will get blown out of proportion and some counter monkey at an FFL will be telling people "all cops sell off roster guns every month", or something to that effect.
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                          • #58
                            anthracite
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 996

                            Originally posted by Dvrjon
                            some ways:

                            1. They advertise on Instagram.
                            2. Folks who bought guns are arrested for stuff. They flip on the seller.
                            3. Gun sales are recorded. When a transfer comes in, the gun is checked against the Registry which shows the previous owner. If the previous owner has a bunch of off-roster purchases on file, they can run those guns against recent transfers. If the records show the guns were flipped, an investigation opens.
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