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  • Donny1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2341

    LAPD Still Keeping, Destroying Guns

    Looks like it happened a while back but I didn't see it posted anywhere.

  • #2
    deadcoyote
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4002

    This is separate but different, but at least educational for some. I had my home burglarized some number of months ago and lost a decent but fairly small collection of firearms. Local cops have recovered 6/18 guns, which is really good for it only being like 5 months out. Unfortunately, I’ve never been told cop shops hold guns for 180’days then destroy them as a function of law. Also, due to covid DOJ isn’t responding to LER’s (formally LEGRs) for like 6-12 months. So they’re warning me that although I’m a legit human I may lose my stuff.

    Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
    Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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    • #3
      Rivers
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 1630

      Originally posted by deadcoyote
      Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
      Listen to your wife. Seriously. Listen to her. She's right this time. Cut bait and enjoy the opportunity to replenish your collection with better stuff at less hassle.
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      • #4
        XDJYo
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2012
        • 6877

        Three times for emphasis!

        Originally posted by deadcoyote
        Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
        Originally posted by deadcoyote
        Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
        Originally posted by deadcoyote
        Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
        Get the hint yet?
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        • #5
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10283

          Originally posted by Donny1
          Looks like it happened a while back but I didn't see it posted anywhere.

          I only watched first minute of vid. But obviously this U-tuber isn't a CalGunner or CRPA member.

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          • #6
            CartridgeCalls
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1435

            LAPD broke into my father in laws and took all of his guns unlawfully out of his safe. Never got them back.
            Cartridge Calls, Predator, Duck and Big game calls made from real brass cartridges. 100% Disabled Veteran Owned and operated Small Business.
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            Get them in close, Get the job done!

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            • #7
              DArBad
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3002

              Originally posted by deadcoyote
              ..........

              Add this to the fact we own a lot of rentals that are full of covid squatters, and in the least my wife now finally thinks we should sell it all and move to another state.
              But where will you move??? This disease called " left leaning liberalism " is infesting the WHOLE country. Those that used to be red states are turning blue. Texas and Arizona for example are already purple, soon to be blue.

              Nevada is the same. Utah is following suite. Colorado is already blue. Kentucky and Tennessee are the same. And ALL these so called " free states " are enacting or in the process of enacting laws mimicking Commiefornia's anti2A amendment.

              ALL the chest thumping, " Don't Californianize, my......state " are nothing but empty bluster. They can't/won't stop the infestations that is spreading, and they won't fight, just run away like a bunch of cowards.

              Its a whole different America we live in.
              Last edited by DArBad; 12-25-2020, 6:36 AM.

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              • #8
                Jimi Jah
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2014
                • 18882

                "As goes California, so goes the Nation".

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12897

                  All you have to do is call them and tell them you want them back. The 180 day hold is for abandoned items. Not property where the owners are known.
                  Poke'm with a stick!


                  Originally posted by fiddletown
                  What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                  • #10
                    deadcoyote
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4002

                    They are aware I want em back. I’ve got the paperwork filed with the state. On the happy countdown.
                    Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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                    • #11
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12897

                      Just be sure to have the fact you want them back in writing. Probably contact the property clerk in charge of evidence and sent them the information.
                      Poke'm with a stick!


                      Originally posted by fiddletown
                      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                      • #12
                        RickD427
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 9266

                        Originally posted by SVT-40
                        All you have to do is call them and tell them you want them back. The 180 day hold is for abandoned items. Not property where the owners are known.
                        Originally posted by SVT-40
                        Just be sure to have the fact you want them back in writing. Probably contact the property clerk in charge of evidence and sent them the information.
                        ^^^THIS^^^

                        The two most common sources of authority for LE agencies to destroy firearms are Penal Code section 18000 (where the weapon has been used in a crime) and Penal Code section 34000 (where the weapon was admitted as a court exhibit and is no longer needed, or where the firearm has been unclaimed for 180 days).

                        The wording of section 34000 is a little awkward. Many LE agencies have read the section to mean that a firearm can be destroyed if a 180 day period has passed without the owner making a demand for the return of the firearm. That makes it a waiting game. As soon as a 180 day period has passed without a demand, the weapon can go to destruction. The section is also commonly read to the conclusion that if the weapon was admitted into court as evidence, it can be destroyed when no longer needed after 180 days in possession of the agency. (and without notice to the owner, and without a requirement to return it to the owner).

                        That makes it important not only to demand the return of the weapon in writing, but also to repeat that demand every 179 days.

                        Please keep in mind that the making of a release demand will not result in the release of the weapon if the agency believes that there is source of lawful standing to keep it, but it will prevent them from concluding that the weapon is abandoned within the meaning of PC 34000.

                        Also please note that an LEGR will be required prior to the actual release of the weapon. An LEGR is not required in order to demand the release of the weapon.
                        If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                        • #13
                          RickD427
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9266

                          Originally posted by deadcoyote
                          They are aware I want em back. . On the happy countdown.
                          Papers filed with the state ain't gonna help you very much if the weapons are in the possession of a local agency.

                          You need to make your demand on the agency actually holding the firearms.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #14
                            flyer898
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2017

                            LAPD in particular will go behind an owner’s back and destroy guns. Fortunately, hey are being sued and the 9th Circuit overturned the the District Court’s dismissal of the suit.

                            A link to the 9th Circuit opinion.
                            Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
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                            "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
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                            • #15
                              Dan_Eastvale
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 10415

                              Yet how many of us bought those police turn in 2 3/4" 870s
                              at Turners decades ago?
                              Didn't they used to auction off seized guns?

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