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  • #46
    subscriber
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 929

    Kurac,

    That still sounds off to me; like the bullet hit something else first.

    The only thing that beats personal experience in such matters, is repeatable results that more than one person can observe.

    What you are suggesting (sort of), is that if someone wants to shoot you with a .223 and all you have is an old phone books for protection, is for one to run towards the shooter so the bullet will frag in the book

    I think the whole improvised armor thing is bogus, because if it is visible, the wearer gets shot in uncovered areas of the body. The least bulky (visible) armor is thin AR500 plate. That can in fact be formed to better fit the body, with a large enough press; even in its hard state. Steel is heavy, which is why soft and ceramic armor exist...

    The OP won't follow through on this. Anyone want to bet?

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    • #47
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      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 929

      Originally posted by BLQQD
      Not only don't you have videos; you don't have a channel - try clicking on your own link....

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      • #48
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        Originally posted by subscriber
        Kurac,

        That still sounds off to me; like the bullet hit something else first.

        The only thing that beats personal experience in such matters, is repeatable results that more than one person can observe.

        What you are suggesting (sort of), is that if someone wants to shoot you with a .223 and all you have is an old phone books for protection, is for one to run towards the shooter so the bullet will frag in the book

        I think the whole improvised armor thing is bogus, because if it is visible, the wearer gets shot in uncovered areas of the body. The least bulky (visible) armor is thin AR500 plate. That can in fact be formed to better fit the body, with a large enough press; even in its hard state. Steel is heavy, which is why soft and ceramic armor exist...

        The OP won't follow through on this. Anyone want to bet?

        Even though it was almost 30 years ago, I still remember being surprised at how well the phone book did against .223, and I believe the only reason why we tried it was because one of the guys mentioned something about phone books being poor mans body armor. We didn't shoot phone books with a 7.62x39 but I believe that one would not be stopped by phone books based one how much wood it will go through.

        Back in the day when I was young and dumb, I was curios about these things so I shot at all kinds of objects with lots of different guns to see what the effect would be. We are lucky no one got hurt because there was lots of splatter flying back at us. One guy took a small splinter to the cheek and only new about it because he was leaking blood. Wear your eye protection when experimenting!
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        "custom grips for shooters by shooters"

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        • #49
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          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 929

          Well, a .223 55 grain FMJ will go though a single plate of mild steel 3/8" thick, at 100 yards (if hit nearly square on). However, it will not go through both sides of a mild steel pipe 2.5" diameter having only a 1/8" wall. So, some things sometimes behave different than one might expect.

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          • #50
            BLQQD
            Member
            • Oct 2019
            • 186

            Originally posted by subscriber
            Not only don't you have videos; you don't have a channel - try clicking on your own link....
            That's weird...

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            • #51
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              • Nov 2011
              • 929

              Originally posted by BLQQD
              It is because you copied the previewed URL in your original post. Not the full one...

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              • #52
                BLQQD
                Member
                • Oct 2019
                • 186

                Originally posted by tradecraft
                Nothing about your original post suggests aptitude. Show us the plates you'll be testing, if they exist.
                I have made anything yet, I'm only at the planning/research phase. Only thing to see is my 3d models for my casts

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                • #53
                  BLQQD
                  Member
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 186

                  Originally posted by subscriber
                  It is because you copied the previewed URL in your original post. Not the full one...
                  actually, when I went to youtube my channel was gone lol

                  I had to log into it before it would show itself, then I made a new link

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                  • #54
                    BLQQD
                    Member
                    • Oct 2019
                    • 186

                    Originally posted by subscriber
                    I think you are going to run into difficulties locating a range that will allow you to shoot unusual targets. So, unless you have access to a large safe private property outside city limits, this whole plan may be SOL.
                    I know a couple guys with places that I can go shoot at, problem is they are ex co workers and I'd rather find a new place.

                    I'll find a place eventually

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                    • #55
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                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 929

                      Whatever ate your youtube link, it ate the 3D one too:

                      This is the text inside your link. The youtube URL had a similar "..." in it.
                      knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/


                      This happens when you copy text from a previewed link and then paste it into the posting window. How do I know? I have run into it before.

                      Whatever you did may have fixed your youtube link, but not for the reason you think. Considering how argumentative you are about details that don't matter, I think it will be a very long wait before you have any improvised armor videos.

                      You don't want advice, you want attention. Unfortunately our attention span is too short. So, you will find this thread going quiet pretty quickly, as all and sundry unsubscribe...

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                      • #56
                        BLQQD
                        Member
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 186

                        Originally posted by subscriber
                        Whatever ate your youtube link, it ate the 3D one too:

                        This is the text inside your link. The youtube URL had a similar "..." in it.



                        This happens when you copy text from a previewed link and then paste it into the posting window. How do I know? I have run into it before.

                        Whatever you did may have fixed your youtube link, but not for the reason you think. Considering how argumentative you are about details that don't matter, I think it will be a very long wait before you have any improvised armor videos.

                        You don't want advice, you want attention. Unfortunately our attention span is too short. So, you will find this thread going quiet pretty quickly, as all and sundry unsubscribe...
                        If you say so...

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                        • #57
                          BLQQD
                          Member
                          • Oct 2019
                          • 186

                          Idk if anyone has continued interest, let me know and I'll keep updating as I go along

                          Took advantage of the holiday sales and bought a chronograph from caldwell



                          Also picked up an AR500 11x14 III+ curved plate with base coat. If I can get my hands on a high speed camera I want shoot the plate with some m855 to check the spalling effect in slow motion. Got the 11x14/curved because I'm a big dude and that's the plate size I would use. Will be using their plate design as a starting point for my own. I also picked up a side plate and ABS plate for the same reasons. Got the build up coat on the side plate so I can compare the spalling effect.

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                          • #58
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34875

                            Have fun testing away and I bet you find something that works!


                            In the meantime, you can buy surplus police level IIIa for under $300 shipped. About 7mm thick, flexible, concealable and comfortable and fairly lightweight.

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                            • #59
                              bugsy714
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2418

                              Originally posted by five.five-six
                              Have fun testing away and I bet you find something that works!


                              In the meantime, you can buy surplus police level IIIa for under $300 shipped. About 7mm thick, flexible, concealable and comfortable and fairly lightweight.

                              Is that rifle rated?


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                              • #60
                                BLQQD
                                Member
                                • Oct 2019
                                • 186

                                Originally posted by bugsy714
                                Is that rifle rated?
                                No, IIIA isnt rifle rated. Its the highest rating before getting into rifle rounds

                                Last edited by BLQQD; 12-01-2020, 2:45 PM.

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