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  • #16
    guest1
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 1038

    Originally posted by Area 52
    What about meeting in person at a CA FFL and exchanging cash? It would still be an FFL transfer and not a PPT, but would I be allowed to basically "courier" the gun to the FFL instead of shipping?
    Say what??? meeting in person at an FFL is a PPT. If you're meeting the other party at the FFL, why the need to ship anything at all?
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    • #17
      SkyHawk
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2012
      • 23510

      Originally posted by Area 52
      What about meeting in person at a CA FFL and exchanging cash? It would still be an FFL transfer and not a PPT, but would I be allowed to basically "courier" the gun to the FFL instead of shipping?
      Yes this is doable, if the FFL allows walk in dealer transfers from non-licensees.

      Originally posted by guest1
      Say what??? meeting in person at an FFL is a PPT. If you're meeting the other party at the FFL, why the need to ship anything at all?
      Meeting at a FFL is not always a PPT. It can also be a dealer transfer - this would be expected if the seller was not a CA resident.
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      • #18
        ARDude
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 2723

        Originally posted by guest1
        Say what??? meeting in person at an FFL is a PPT. If you're meeting the other party at the FFL, why the need to ship anything at all?
        Not sure, but I believe the OP is a Neveda resident. Or maybe the buyer is?

        So, not a PPT.
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        • #19
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Guest1 not doing good today 2 for 2 with wrong statements. Meeting at ffl not ppt just be delivered for transfer.

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          • #20
            guest1
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 1038

            Originally posted by edgerly779
            Guest1 not doing good today 2 for 2 with wrong statements. Meeting at ffl not ppt just be delivered for transfer.
            You desperately need to get your eyes checked and obviously failed in math. Now sit down.

            Originally posted by ARDude
            Not sure, but I believe the OP is a Neveda resident. Or maybe the buyer is?

            So, not a PPT.
            OP out of state was unclear to me.
            Last edited by guest1; 10-27-2020, 3:26 PM.
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            • #21
              jeremiah12
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2065

              Originally posted by guest1
              OP out of state was unclear to me.
              Read the original post.

              The OP is in Reno and is asking about selling his gun to a CA buyer. Hence, it will not be a PPT even if he delivers the gun in person to the FFL because the seller and buyer are not both CA residents.

              Sometimes it helps to read the very first post so you have all the information.
              Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

              A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

              Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

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              • #22
                Dvrjon
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2012
                • 11333

                So, back to the issue.

                The seller lives in NV and is a NV resident. He’s edited the post to eliminate the PPT discussion. But, to close that issue, CA PPT won’t work, as DES (DROS Entry System (DES) Firearms Dealership User Guide, Page 38) requires:
                ENTERING PURCHASER AND SELLER INFORMATION
                All DROS transaction types require the entry of purchaser information. Seller information is only required on the following transaction types:
                 Private Party Handgun Transfer

                 Handgun Loan
                 Private Party Long Gun Transfer
                 Long Gun Loan
                Purchaser and seller information will be captured by swiping the California Driver’s License or Identification card through a magnetic card swipe reader.
                That leaves him with out-of-state sale into state.

                1. In person: A sale with someone willing to make the drive to a CA FFL close to NV (or in LA...your round trip..not his...he needs to do this twice!) who will conduct the transfer. Make sure the FFL will do the transfer (not ppt) and the buyer pays all fees. Cash for the purchase price to you at point of sale. Walk away and be done.
                2. A person willing to have you ship the gun to his/her FFL. Payment gets tricky, but Shipmygun provides relief for transport costs. You need to make a relationship with the FFL, as well as the buyer.
                3. Bring the gun over the border and establish consignment with a CA FFL. They handle the sale, transfer, etc., and send you the money. Takes 30 + days to execute.

                What is this fabulous CA-approved firearm.?
                Last edited by Dvrjon; 10-27-2020, 7:06 PM.

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