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  • #46
    Mr. Blue
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 2502

    Originally posted by CHansen
    I’ve noticed a fair number of accidental shootings in the news by very young children, say, 5 years of age and under who’ve managed to come into possession of a friend or family member’s handgun in some manner or another. Without knowing the identity of the firearms themselves I’m thinking that the light trigger pull and possibly no safety of many striker fired guns must be a major player in these incidents as it’s hard to believe that a child could muster the strength to fire most SA/DA or true double action handguns in most cases. While irresponsible firearm management by the owners will always be the main factor, I can’t help but think these tragedies are more likely to continue to occur nowadays. Any thoughts on this matter? Or am I presuming too much about the probability of the action playing a role?
    This is the worst thread I have ever witnessed. The problem here is the foundation of thinking. Every anti-gun politician has implemented gun laws because of EXACTLY the way you are thinking. “Lets not be responsible, lets blame the gun.” Knives are much more accessible than guns mechanically speaking. One sharp edge, vs a pull of a trigger....a magazine needed to be loaded, a magazine needed to be inserted. This rationale imposes the idea that shiny colored guns are also to blame. Or whatever nonsense to create to blame the gun, gun industry, gun owners and ultimately the 2nd amendment. People are going to die from guns, thats the reality. However, every living thing dies one day. It’s up to you and yours to protect you and yours the best you can.
    Last edited by Mr. Blue; 10-26-2020, 12:06 PM.
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    • #47
      Mr. Blue
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2019
      • 2502

      Originally posted by riderr
      I did, in case you didn't notice
      That itself doesn't change the fact that OP is a shill in my opinion. Educating the shill is time-wasting activity.
      100%
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      • #48
        igs
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 941

        Originally posted by lastinline
        No, the mechanical attributes are not the factor. It is the absolute and total negligence of adults that is the issue.
        Mechanical attributes absolutely are a factor even with adults.
        ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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        • #49
          Kurgan
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 3764

          I lock up my guns when anyone is in my house, child, adult, whoever. (Other than what I'm carrying on my person).

          It's part of being a responsible gun owner.
          My mother always told me to be careful what you ask for.

          Just one more piece of parental advice I stupidly ignored.

          <shrug>

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          • #50
            CHansen
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 22

            yeah-like I said-I don't advocate getting rid of the guns. I asked if there's a relationship between an increase in such accidents and the gun's design. Oh well. maybe people don't like the answer or something.

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            • #51
              CHansen
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2020
              • 22

              Originally posted by AregularGuy
              OP, are you personally witnessing these accidents or reading about them? Please post links to "more such accidents".
              I said in the OP that I've read about many recently and am wondering if they're related to light pull triggers-that's about it.

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              • #52
                CHansen
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2020
                • 22

                Originally posted by riderr
                I did, in case you didn't notice
                That itself doesn't change the fact that OP is a shill in my opinion. Educating the shill is time-wasting activity.
                I asked an honest question-didn't even get around to suggesting that there may be some answer other than better adult responsibility. But some prefer the attack mode I guess.

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                • #53
                  CHansen
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 22

                  <end thread>

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                  • #54
                    Mr. Blue
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 2502

                    Originally posted by CHansen
                    yeah-like I said-I don't advocate getting rid of the guns. I asked if there's a relationship between an increase in such accidents and the gun's design. Oh well. maybe people don't like the answer or something.
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                    • #55
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57081

                      Originally posted by frankm
                      If we just got rid of the cars, we'd save thousands of lives.
                      And stop millions of injuries...

                      https://www.nsc.org/road-safety/safe...2018%20figures.
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                      • #56
                        DrjonesUSA
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 4699

                        Originally posted by lastinline
                        No, the mechanical attributes are not the factor. It is the absolute and total negligence of adults that is the issue.

                        I mean, if you keep an AR with a loaded mag but chamber empty, or a shotgun with tube filled, but chamber empty; how many shootings have happened where the child actually chambered a round in an otherwise un-chambered firearm, prior to shooting?

                        Of course the utmost care needs to be taken, just curious.

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                        • #57
                          DrjonesUSA
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 4699

                          Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
                          While this is a gun forum the opportunity to save young lives would be see much more results in other more significant areas of danger. The old "if it just saves one life" has always been a ruse for the real agenda to justify authoritarianism - exert control and remove freedom.
                          Yep, agree completely!!!


                          Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
                          From the CDC website
                          The leading causes of injury death differed by age group:
                          *For children less than 1 year of age, two–thirds of injury deaths were due to suffocation.
                          *Drowning was the leading cause injury death for those 1 to 4 years of age.
                          *For children 5 to 19 years of age, the most injury deaths were due to being an occupant in a motor vehicle traffic crash.

                          Bingo. Came here to post this.

                          Everyone talking about this has their pools gated off and covered, doesn't have any errant buckets or ponds on their property, etc, right?

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                          • #58
                            lastinline
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 2364

                            Originally posted by igs
                            Mechanical attributes absolutely are a factor even with adults.
                            No.
                            Those adults have not been properly taught safe gun handling practices. There are four primary rules, that if adhered to eliminate such occurrences.

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                            • #59
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by riderr
                              I think OP is a shill.
                              And what's he shilling for??
                              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

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                              • #60
                                AregularGuy
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 2792

                                Originally posted by AregularGuy
                                Yeah! What kind of new trollery is this? Post some links of the numerous recent cases.
                                Originally posted by AregularGuy
                                OP, are you personally witnessing these accidents or reading about them? Please post links to "more such accidents".

                                2 pages in and the OP has yet to link or paste any info to which he is referring, many recent incidents. While the topic might be something to discuss, the insinuation that there are somehow many events or increasing events recently is BS.
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