Biden will make "assault rifles" NFA items.

[Den60]

^^^^ This. A Assault weapon ban and mandatory buyback gets around the 5th Amendment's "illegal taking" aspect of an outright ban and confiscation.

"private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Oh, he also includes standard capacity mags in his mandatory buyback plan. Biden's also for elimination of the 6th Amendment rights of gun owners as well with his support of red flag laws which allow accusers to remain anonymous in the process.

I don't think there is any one of the first 10 Amendments that the left agrees with; they want them all gone. Well, maybe the 3rd Amendment is safe.

[socal m1 shooter]

He would have to get congress to modify the law.

He would have to cheat his way to victory, retain the congress, and then do that.

[Jimi Jah]

Chicken Little says they won't ban semi-auto rifles in America.

[The Good Doc]

Beware of the "kamala administration with joe biden". My Sheriff here in Greenville County, SC has no problem approving NFA requests.

Right now I am more worried about the ATF issuing that "cease and desist" order to "Q Firearms" regarding their AR Pistols, the sugar badger or whatever it's called. They said this was "brand specific" but also worded it to where they "leave the option open" to go after other pistol "braced" short barreled AR/AK pistols. I just ordered a couple AR pistol lowers so I can build a 10.5" AR for my lady and a 7.5" in 300 Blackout. Also picked up a CMMG Banshee in 9mm with the 5" barrel for home defense.

That Banshee is sweet!! It's entire length is equal to my SW MP15 to the end of the foreward sight, so it is compact enough to handle business in close confines and has slightly less kick than my AR. The Banshee comes in at 23" where the AR is 34" with the stock fully collapsed. Even with a suppressor that thing comes in 3-5 inches shorter.

I really want to pick up a semi auto bullpup 12 gauge and a Desert Tech MDRX in 308 just in case we have a "kamala administration with Joe Biden". I know how kamala hates those mag fed semi auto firearms.

[American Muslim Gun Owner]

Obama didn't even try to get the AWB re-instated when he had both houses of congress. The reason is the democrats didn't support it.

This is election BS to energize their base.

I agree, it is all talk. Plus, there are too many new gun owners on the left now, which will be shifting things, I hope.

The mechanism needed to get any kind of nationwide registration/confiscation rolling would take too many years to guarantee Biden a second term.

[Dirtlaw]

^^^^ This. A Assault weapon ban and mandatory buyback gets around the 5th Amendment's "illegal taking" aspect of an outright ban and confiscation.

"private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Bingo! And your custom built $x,xxx AR just became worth about $50. Government sets the price and if you dispute the price expect to shell out mucho dinero for an attorney to engage in a court battle. Unless, the difference is more than $50-100K even a cheap attorney is going to cost more than a win.

[Rcjackrabbit]

He can declare anything he wants.

Not going to comply.

[ScottsBad]

FIFY.

You are a certified weirdo. Added to ignore list.

[ScottsBad]

I agree, it is all talk. Plus, there are too many new gun owners on the left now, which will be shifting things, I hope.

The mechanism needed to get any kind of nationwide registration/confiscation rolling would take too many years to guarantee Biden a second term.

All talk? Biden and the entire left campaigned on it, for the first time ever. So, you are betting your 2A Rights on your faulty logic that it will be too hard and take too much time, so they won't do it?

Geez, that's not even a meaningful or strong argument. The Dims are now owned by the left. There are no moderates in power on the left. You should try keeping up with current events.

You realize, I hope, that corrupt and senile Biden isn't going to make it through his first term, let alone run for a second. I think the current plan is a grab for dictator like powers very quickly. And there won't be any real opposition left when they are done.

AND, Do you REALLY think that the Left gives a crap about the Moderate gun owners in the Democrack party???? The moderates ARE the enemy. Why do you think they keep putting up leftist candidates against Moderate Democracks? AOC beat and replaced the NUMBER 2 Democrack in the House, and she is a straight up Socialist. Democracks have been systematically replacing Moderates with Leftists.

The leftists run the house, and all the money is behind them, and they want your guns. What do you think Beto was about, and now he's Biden's butt buddy.

[ScottsBad]

Bingo! And your custom built $x,xxx AR just became worth about $50. Government sets the price and if you dispute the price expect to shell out mucho dinero for an attorney to engage in a court battle. Unless, the difference is more than $50-100K even a cheap attorney is going to cost more than a win.

Exactly, they will set the price based on the market value....not what its actually worth when there is a real market. And since there will be no market for ARs, because they are banned, they will give you a token compensation.

[ScottsBad]

Beware of the "kamala administration with joe biden". My Sheriff here in Greenville County, SC has no problem approving NFA requests.

Right now I am more worried about the ATF issuing that "cease and desist" order to "Q Firearms" regarding their AR Pistols, the sugar badger or whatever it's called. They said this was "brand specific" but also worded it to where they "leave the option open" to go after other pistol "braced" short barreled AR/AK pistols. I just ordered a couple AR pistol lowers so I can build a 10.5" AR for my lady and a 7.5" in 300 Blackout. Also picked up a CMMG Banshee in 9mm with the 5" barrel for home defense.

That Banshee is sweet!! It's entire length is equal to my SW MP15 to the end of the foreward sight, so it is compact enough to handle business in close confines and has slightly less kick than my AR. The Banshee comes in at 23" where the AR is 34" with the stock fully collapsed. Even with a suppressor that thing comes in 3-5 inches shorter.

I really want to pick up a semi auto bullpup 12 gauge and a Desert Tech MDRX in 308 just in case we have a "kamala administration with Joe Biden". I know how kamala hates those mag fed semi auto firearms.

So, are you saying that we all need to move to South Carolina so we can keep our firearms?

Sorry, but that's a really dumb statement. I understand that you are worried about YOUR purchase, but you can get your pistol an NFA tax stamp any time. We, in CA are F'd.

[five.five-six]

I read that they found plans to ban all guns on hunters computer.

[American Muslim Gun Owner]

All talk? Biden and the entire left campaigned on it, for the first time ever. So, you are betting your 2A Rights on your faulty logic that it will be too hard and take too much time, so they won't do it?

Geez, that's not even a meaningful or strong argument. The Dims are now owned by the left. There are no moderates in power on the left. You should try keeping up with current events.

You realize, I hope, that corrupt and senile Biden isn't going to make it through his first term, let alone run for a second. I think the current plan is a grab for dictator like powers very quickly. And there won't be any real opposition left when they are done.

Yes, at this point I do believe it is all talk.

Gun ownership views have changed very dramatically in the last few months, in my opinion. Tons of new gun owners throughout the country saw what it takes to be able to buy gun, especially here in California. The ammo shortage can only add to the eye-opening experience. I am strongly hoping this experience will affect how they will vote in the future, especially if they were willing to admit to themselves that they were wrong about the responsibility of protecting oneself and one's family, and were willing to pay the money required in these times to buy a weapon.

Based on my own research, I can confidently assure others that those on the actual Left do not care for the currently right -of-center Democrats. They've been pissed off at the Democrats since at least the Occupy days during the Obama administration. They have made it clear that Biden is not their guy. The actual Left is very much anti-Democrat on quite a few things, including gun control. They also are not too happy that their vote is essentially being taken for granted and don't feel they are being catered to by the Democratic party.

Will the Democrats try to limit things? I am counting on it. Will it be a worthwhile effort? I doubt it.

[ScottsBad]

Yes, at this point I do believe it is all talk.

Gun ownership views have changed very dramatically in the last few months, in my opinion. Tons of new gun owners throughout the country saw what it takes to be able to buy gun, especially here in California. The ammo shortage can only add to the eye-opening experience. I am strongly hoping this experience will affect how they will vote in the future, especially if they were willing to admit to themselves that they were wrong about the responsibility of protecting oneself and one's family, and were willing to pay the money required in these times to buy a weapon.

Based on my own research, I can confidently assure others that those on the actual Left do not care for the currently right -of-center Democrats. They've been pissed off at the Democrats since at least the Occupy days during the Obama administration. They have made it clear that Biden is not their guy. The actual Left is very much anti-Democrat on quite a few things, including gun control. They also are not too happy that their vote is essentially being taken for granted and don't feel they are being catered to by the Democratic party.

Will the Democrats try to limit things? I am counting on it. Will it be a worthwhile effort? I doubt it.

Sorry, but I don't understand your reasoning. If we can agree that the left is running the Dim party now. Are you arguing that current moderate Dims don't recognize this? Because, if the moderate gun owning Dims did recognize that the anti-gun left IS in power, wouldn't they vote for Trump or not vote in order to protect moderate Dim positions?

If Biden wins he will be forced to go further left. None of Biden's positions have been moderate. He's flip flopped recently on some, but his overall plan is NOT moderate. You should read it.

Especially, since he can be black mailed for his corrupt activities with his son. Lets face it, if they can impeach Trump for almost nothing , they can impeach Biden for documented corruption. Biden is a National Security threat . Impeach him, easy peasy. BTW - Hunter's laptop proves that Trump was right, once again.

If Biden doesn't tow the line, the left will remove him for corruption or incompetence. That's what Nancy Pelosi's 25th amendment competency board is all about. Keeping Biden in line.

The only way your argument makes sense is if the moderates turn the tables on the left regarding the 2nd amendment. But I don't think there are nearly enough gun owning moderates to make a difference. The left will threaten the moderates with primary challenges because they have all the money.

Sorry, but you are just hoping the 2A moderates can make a difference, but that is not realistic. The left dominates now and suppresses the moderates, that isn't going to change after the election if Biden wins. Biden will be owned by the left, he will owe the left for his election, and the left will have him over a barrel on corruption and competency. That is the plan.

Its pretty obvious. I hope I'm wrong but I haven't been so far.

Just ain't gonna happen.

[ScottsBad]

I read that they found plans to ban all guns on hunters computer.

All they have to do is look at Biden's own web page to find that.