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  • #16
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34887

    Originally posted by ScottsBad
    This is just ridiculous. Especially, since the definition of an assault weapon seems to be shifting. It isn't just AR-15s dims don't like, its any semi-auto with a detachable magazine.

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    • #17
      ScottsBad
      Progressives Suck!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2009
      • 5610

      Originally posted by BajaJames83
      No he wont. He plans on a clinton style AWB to include a buyback....
      Exactly the same thing.
      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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      • #18
        ScottsBad
        Progressives Suck!
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • May 2009
        • 5610

        Originally posted by Nvberinger
        Everything that comes from the Lefts mouth has a new definition, meaning, and has grossly shifted away from traditional and classical meaning. Even the dictionary has been changed to meet their narratives.
        True. I still have preferences, however. I'll take Melania over the Wookie any day.
        Last edited by ScottsBad; 10-18-2020, 11:24 AM.
        sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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        • #19
          ScottsBad
          Progressives Suck!
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • May 2009
          • 5610

          Originally posted by Nvberinger
          Infiltrate with any means and sabatoge with any means. Oaths for some mean nothing.
          Even Ruth Buzzy Gingsburg stated the US Constitution is a horrible example of a national constitution, yet she took up the highest court position in the USA and took up an oath to uphold, but she never believed in.
          So true. She was a horrible justice IMO, it makes me laugh when Trump says what a great woman she was, because he knows the opposite is true. She was promoted above her ability and she was anti-American. She had no business being on the court.
          sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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          • #20
            ScottsBad
            Progressives Suck!
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • May 2009
            • 5610

            LOL. True as can be.
            sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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            • #21
              lastinline
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 2364

              Originally posted by Endless
              It's nothing like that with Form 1s right now. 2-4 weeks. Form 4s is a lot longer. That's nothing. And you do them via Kiosk/electronic. Super fast. $200 is nothing either.

              My SBR started as an AR pistol and if I want to travel I can file a form 5320 or just convert it back to a pistol from an sbr and it's legal.

              It will just mean they will be banned in California, New York, Hawaii, New Jersey etc. Just like the Clinton AWB back from 1994-2004. But even with that federal ban Alaska was one of a few states like Wyoming that did not enforce it and you could still buy assault weapons during that 10 years span. I know, I did.
              What an arrogant post. You seem to be OK, and even supportive of these NFA mandates, and because you are on the other side of the river, don’t give a hoot about your fellow gun owners in other states.
              Furthermore, I hope you are retired, as IMO you are the type who would have no problem “following orders” if you were tasked with the disarming of your fellow citizens.
              Last edited by lastinline; 10-18-2020, 8:47 AM.

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              • #22
                Jimi Jah
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2014
                • 18975

                Obama didn't even try to get the AWB re-instated when he had both houses of congress. The reason is the democrats didn't support it.

                This is election BS to energize their base.

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                • #23
                  nedro
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 4130

                  To save the 2nd, the first thing we should do is propose banning all shotguns and hunting rifles.

                  Watch the hysterical but*-hurt evolve.

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                  • #24
                    Bansh88
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2500

                    Originally posted by Endless
                    It's nothing like that with Form 1s right now. 2-4 weeks. Form 4s is a lot longer. That's nothing. And you do them via Kiosk/electronic. Super fast. $200 is nothing either.

                    My SBR started as an AR pistol and if I want to travel I can file a form 5320 or just convert it back to a pistol from an sbr and it's legal.

                    It will just mean they will be banned in California, New York, Hawaii, New Jersey etc. Just like the Clinton AWB back from 1994-2004. But even with that federal ban Alaska was one of a few states like Wyoming that did not enforce it and you could still buy assault weapons during that 10 years span. I know, I did.
                    This might be the biggest anti 2nd, Fudd, apolologist post I've seen on this site.

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                    • #25
                      ScottsBad
                      Progressives Suck!
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • May 2009
                      • 5610

                      Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                      Obama didn't even try to get the AWB re-instated when he had both houses of congress. The reason is the democrats didn't support it.

                      This is election BS to energize their base.
                      Just keep your head in the sand as you always do. Hope you enjoy your new toothless socialist society. You're on my disgraced gun owners list along with Endless idiot.
                      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                      • #27
                        enorbit3
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2655

                        Endless for the loss.
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                        • #28
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19741

                          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                          Obama didn't even try to get the AWB re-instated when he had both houses of congress. The reason is the democrats didn't support it.

                          This is election BS to energize their base.
                          They couldn't really "re-instate" it because it expired in 2004. They would have had to pass a new ban and there were enough dems that realized it would be political suicide. Right now they're in the minority, and everyone knows it doesn't matter what they do, so they follow Pelosi in lockstep.

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                          • #29
                            M1NM
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 7966

                            Originally posted by sigstroker
                            He would have to get congress to modify the law.
                            NO HE WOULDN'T. All that is required is for the ATF to make an opinion to include detachable mag semi autos in the NFA due to the ability of being modified into full auto. The opinion sits for awhile while people make comments and then becomes a rule with whatever comments they want to include and after awhile and more comments the rule becomes the law with any additional specs they want to include. ALL WITHOUT the legislature taking any action. This is a GIANT problem with how our system works. Many of the things that Trump killed were these Rule/Laws that were hurting businesses.
                            Last edited by M1NM; 10-18-2020, 2:33 PM.

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                            • #30
                              Robotron2k84
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 2013

                              Originally posted by M1NM
                              NO HE WOULDN'T. All that is required is for the ATF to make an opinion to include detachable mag semi autos in the NFA due to the ability of being modified into full auto. The opinion sits for awhile while people make comments and then becomes a rule with whatever comments they want to include and after awhile and more comments the rule becomes the law with any additional specs they want to include. ALL WITHOUT the legislature taking any action. This is a GIANT problem with how our system works. Many of the things that Trump killed were these Rule/Laws that were hurting businesses.
                              For ARs, that would expose them to further litigation on the fact that GCA technically doesn’t classify split receivers as firearms, if the breech isn’t in the part of the weapon where the trigger and hammer reside.

                              That’s what California is suing ATF for, as we speak.

                              Realistically they can’t put AR semi-auto receivers under NFA because the receiver is not a firearm in itself.

                              Assembled as a full-auto M16 is a different case, or as with barreled action uppers being firearms.

                              There is precedent here, that would have to be overcome. And, if it did sans legislation, I would be hopeful that Chevron Deference would finally fall.

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