Roggio Arms Lowers buyers BEWARE! So I did a build party this weekend for some of my regular customers. I am not an FFL so they did NOT buy the lowers from ME. Also they did not ask me about this purchase beforehand. But needless to say they bought six lowers all the same model. Things went together just like any other build, until it came time to put the buffer tube together. This is the part when the TROUBLE began. We tried to attach the buffer tube to the lower but the threads on the lower did not match up. Some of the guys tried to force the tube into the lower; I told them this was not a great idea. However they all wanted to get them done after waiting weeks on end, to get all the money and find all the parts. I thought maybe it was just a little over anodized threads. So we got a brass brush out and started to knock down some of it. After a bit of work the tubes started to thread on, but way too stiff. So I got out a mic and indeed it was the threads. So I started to wonder if it was the buffer tubes. I tried four different types NOT THE TUBES. After a little more work with the brass brush we got the tubes to fit. I would not recommend these lowers at all. Thanks for the look
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How did you knock down anodizing with a brass brush? Good anodizing should have a Rockwell C of somewhere around 60, which is very hard.sigpicNRA MemberOriginally posted by Deadbolt"We're here to take your land for your safety"
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junk................WHERED IT GO !, IT'S ONLY A LITTLE LEAD.LETER SEE ,UP 40 CLICKS AND LEFT 20 CLICKS," OH DARN, I DUNO WHERE IT IS?
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Thanks for the Warning!!! How much did you pay for them if you dont mind me asking!Need A Realtor in SoCal? Shoot me a PM. :cool:Comment
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Thanks for the heads up, and you should contact the manufacturer and inform them of the problem as well.The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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Check my current auctions on Gunbroker - user name bigbasscat - see what left California before Roberti-RoosComment
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Do a search and you will see that Roggio Arms Lowers are very inconsistent.
Good warning.Comment
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That is due to the $5.00 pay to their machinests working the vertical milling machines and the lathes, or in other words cheap labor from out side of the U.S. I mean come on who can't run a internal thread on a lathe, it's simple you just ingage the thread at the correct position. Wait perhaps they are tapping the threads on the vertical milling machine and that is even more simple.Last edited by ricknadine1111; 05-24-2009, 2:51 PM.WHERED IT GO !, IT'S ONLY A LITTLE LEAD.LETER SEE ,UP 40 CLICKS AND LEFT 20 CLICKS," OH DARN, I DUNO WHERE IT IS?
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I just ran into the same thing with a couple of Roggios. They were too tight and I wasnt going to fight it.
Called them at 910-864-4137 and they sent UPS label to ship them back. everything Ive heard is that they are good about making it right.Comment
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^^^That is due to the $5.00 pay to their machinests working the vertical milling machines and the lathes, or in other words cheap labor from out side of the U.S. I mean come on who can't run a internal thread on a lathe, it's simple you just ingage the thread at the correct position. Wait perhaps they are tapping the threads on the vertical milling machine and that is even more simple.
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maybe the machinist didnt understand he couldnt engage the threads at different numbers every time.... wookie move.Comment
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... I'd be shocked if they were building these on anything but CNC machines, and that would make it a worn tooling issue.
But that's eclipsed by the fact that it should be impossible to remove anodizing with a brass or bronze brush. I have to admit that this little fact makes me rather doubtful of the story.sigpicNRA MemberOriginally posted by Deadbolt"We're here to take your land for your safety"
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Maybe it's that new method of anodizing? I heard about the process a few weeks back.
I'm trying to recall... "Kriolite...?" "Kreighlition...?" "Krylatic...?"
OH! That's it! "Krylon."
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sigpicNRA MemberOriginally posted by Deadbolt"We're here to take your land for your safety"
"My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"Comment
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MORE POWER THAN BRAINS
"Doubtful of the story" thank you 4 your 2 cents but they are junk lowers. It looked more like paint to me than anodized metal. But it did come off with a brass brush so "doubtful of the story" I have nothing to gain from telling stories. I don't sell lowers nor did I buy one, I just was asked to come to the build party. This was just a warning,... nothing else. So with you being a moderator, before calling me a story teller you should think twice about what you write. But then again some people have more power than brains.... I'd be shocked if they were building these on anything but CNC machines, and that would make it a worn tooling issue.
But that's eclipsed by the fact that it should be impossible to remove anodizing with a brass or bronze brush. I have to admit that this little fact makes me rather doubtful of the story.
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