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  • DennisCA
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 4067

    Recommendation for laser bore sighter

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.
  • #2
    MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    Originally posted by DennisCA
    I am looking for a laser bore sighter (multiple-calibers) and something that won’t cost an arm and leg, but something that will last.
    Recommendations?
    I have used this for 5 years and it gets me on paper. Its clunky, but it does the job.



    If you want a chambered bore sighter, Sightmark makes really good quality units. But you will need one per caliber.

    Sightmark's Boresight is ideal for quickly sighting in 9mm Luger pistols, recommended by NTOA for quick draw drills, and includes a carrying case.


    The L3 Insight System AN/PEM1 is what the military uses. You can buy one for 130 bucks here - https://www.ebay.com/itm/L3-Insight-...8AAOSwWNBfgLJb

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    • #3
      TurboChrisB
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2010
      • 5116

      Buy once, cry once. I have the Wheeler. It's great and couldn't be happier with it.

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      • #4
        justmedave
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 286

        I purchased this one



        It's paid for itself a million times over. I use it at night set and level my firearm in a rifle rest in my patio and point laser @ my property line block wall maybe 10 yards away. Scopes red dots .22 or I even used it with my saiga12. Always gets me on paper and I'm zeroed in a few rounds @ the range. I swap optics around a lot. Only down side is the batteries don't last long.

        Sent from my SM-A716U using Tapatalk

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        • #5
          naz
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 3108

          I am currently using sightmark

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          • #6
            sofbak
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2628

            I have a Site-Lite 100 I'll make you a very good deal on



            PM if interested.
            Tire kickers gonna kick,
            Nose pickers gonna pick
            I and others know the real

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            • #7
              zhyla
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 2017

              I’ve got a couple of the super cheap kind that fit in the chamber and run off teeny watch batteries. The batteries don’t last long but it got me pretty close. Since zeroing a new gun isn’t a common thing for me I am fine to cry a few times and go cheap on this.

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              • #8
                subscriber
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 929

                Buy what you want, but here is how to get by without a laser bore sighter:

                Simply shoot at a large close target to see where your sights are pointing. A two foot square carboard at 25 yards, with an aiming point in the middle works every time. Make some coarse adjustments to get you within an inch or two of point of aim, then move the target back to 50 yards; or move directly to 100 yards for fine adjustments. If you are planning to shoot at 200 and 300 yards too, check the point of impact there too. Drop tables are shortcuts that, like laser pointers work in theory...

                I can easily hit a two foot square carboard box at 25 yards, pointing a rifle as if it is a shotgun. After figuring where to hold, I can shoot 5" groups that way. Obviously you should use your rifle's sights, but my point is that at short range, they can't be that far off - unless someone cranked them to the extremes of their adjustment.

                If this is too crude for your liking, start by bore sighting. Sure, that is not always possible.

                By the way, you will be surprised how far off laser sighters are. This is due to barrel harmonics under recoil; and poor alignment of the laser in the cheaper, more compact products.

                Smarts; not gadgets...

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                • #9
                  sofbak
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2628

                  ^^^Not nearly as much fun as a laser-especially if you have cats in the house. .some dogs too!
                  Tire kickers gonna kick,
                  Nose pickers gonna pick
                  I and others know the real

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                  • #10
                    MarikinaMan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 4864

                    This is true for me, and also that I incessantly acquire and possess hundreds, if not thousands of items in tools and supplies. I reserved top shelf for the most often used items.

                    I get some guys buy once and cry once. If I did that even just for my main interest, two channel audio, I wouldnt have money for anything else

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                    • #11
                      wynn
                      Member
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 210

                      Originally posted by subscriber
                      Buy what you want, but here is how to get by without a laser bore sighter:

                      Simply shoot at a large close target to see where your sights are pointing. A two foot square carboard at 25 yards, with an aiming point in the middle works every time. Make some coarse adjustments to get you within an inch or two of point of aim, then move the target back to 50 yards; or move directly to 100 yards for fine adjustments. If you are planning to shoot at 200 and 300 yards too, check the point of impact there too. Drop tables are shortcuts that, like laser pointers work in theory...

                      I can easily hit a two foot square carboard box at 25 yards, pointing a rifle as if it is a shotgun. After figuring where to hold, I can shoot 5" groups that way. Obviously you should use your rifle's sights, but my point is that at short range, they can't be that far off - unless someone cranked them to the extremes of their adjustment.

                      If this is too crude for your liking, start by bore sighting. Sure, that is not always possible.

                      By the way, you will be surprised how far off laser sighters are. This is due to barrel harmonics under recoil; and poor alignment of the laser in the cheaper, more compact products.

                      Smarts; not gadgets...
                      This! I have never used a laser. Always bore sighted to get general area and make changes from there.

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                      • #12
                        subscriber
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 929

                        Originally posted by wynn
                        This! I have never used a laser. Always bore sighted to get general area and make changes from there.
                        Bore sighting is at least as good as the most fancy laser sighter.

                        And then there is this. Easy with a bolt action:

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                        • #13
                          MarikinaMan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 4864

                          Originally posted by subscriber
                          Bore sighting is at least as good as the most fancy laser sighter.

                          And then there is this. Easy with a bolt action:
                          I have sighted by peering through the bore and gotten 3 shot zeroes. 1 on paper, and 2 more to get it exactly right.

                          I have had rifles that just didnt cooperate, which is why I bought a cheapo laser sighter.

                          Otherwise, the old school way works 95% of the time.

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                          • #14
                            The War Wagon
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10294

                            Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                            If you want a chambered bore sighter, Sightmark makes really good quality units. But you will need one per caliber.

                            Sightmark's Boresight is ideal for quickly sighting in 9mm Luger pistols, recommended by NTOA for quick draw drills, and includes a carrying case.



                            ^^^THIS.


                            With the exception of a click or 2 at the range, these put me on bullseye every time. As I only have 5.56 & .308 rifles, they DON'T break the bank.
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                            • #15
                              OlderThanDirt
                              FUBAR
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5962

                              Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                              I have sighted by peering through the bore and gotten 3 shot zeroes. 1 on paper, and 2 more to get it exactly right.

                              I have had rifles that just didnt cooperate, which is why I bought a cheapo laser sighter.

                              Otherwise, the old school way works 95% of the time.
                              This.

                              Remove bolt, look through bore, look through scope, adjust scope, repeat until close. The Sightmark lasers are also a nice verification, especially for firearms where looking down the bore is difficult or impossible.
                              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                              Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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