ATF vs Q honey badger

[car15]

I'm hearing pistols sold by Q are now SBRs.

[SoldierLife7]

Source?

[edgerly779]

Says who?

[plumbum]

Specific pistols are being considered SBR’s by the ATF - not braces specifically.

The Honey Badger, and two similar models are being called SBR’s because of all of their individual nuances.

[speedrrracer]

ATF Rules Q’s Honey Badger Pistol is a Short Barrel Rifle

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/atf-rules-qs-honey-badge-is-a-short-barrel-rifle-issues-cease-and-desist-letter/

Q is fighting it, but if you own an AR pistol with a pistol brace, you might wanna stay tuned

[elSquid]

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20201006/your-action-needed-urge-the-department-of-justice-to-rein-in-atfs-arbitrary-determination-on-honey-badger-pistol

-- Michael

[SkyHawk]

Yep was just coming here to post the news. These braces were always a dance with the devil, even more so in CA.

[The War Wagon]

SBR needs to be dropped from the NFA registry altogether.

[Erion929]

[Endless]

Yep was just coming here to post the news. These braces were always a dance with the devil, even more so in CA.

In Arizona they aren't and state police won't enforce. Just spoke with them today. Same thing with Maine State Police. They don't give a **** about some opinion letter.

It's not considered law. It's an opinion. That's all.

The Noveske Ghettoblaster is next I bet.

NFA needs to go.

[BajaJames83]

The NFA is a joke and time for it to go.

[pythonfan]

Yeah title is misleading. They CURRENTLY are not going after braces in general. They are going after particular pistols with a brace with an LOP longer than 13" while simultaneously having an OAL extended shorter than 26" and is capable of firing in that configuration. I dont agree with their ruling, but this is their reasoning.

[IVC]

SBR needs to be dropped from the NFA registry altogether.

The NFA is a joke and time for it to go.

Agreed - suppressors and SBR/SBS restrictions need to go. Handguns are way more concealable than SBR/SBS which was the argument for their restriction in the first place.

Let's get Amy Coney Barrett confirmed and then see how the 2A jurisprudence evolves over the next decade...

[jcwatchdog]

So is it just not possible to remove the pistol brace and just have a regular buffer tube? It looks kind of strange, like the brace is somehow part of the gun, but I would think it could be removed and just be a pistol.

[IVC]

Braces are used as stocks. I have never seen a single person use the brace as intended. That's what opens it up for interpretation, particularly in gun-hating jurisdictions such as CA.

Not a good idea to have it installed, whether technically legal or not. Just too much risk even if you end up cleared in the court in the end...