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Ammo Makers Facing Massive Order Backlog, Shortage May Last Until 2021

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  • #31
    CWL
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 1488

    Originally posted by sigstroker
    As I mentioned before, Olin runs Lake City now. They don't sell commercially like Federal did. Wartime capacity is not available to the public.
    I understand that, however, if you've got a shop set-up to manufacture millions of rounds a day and the govt. contract ends, you have to find another customer -or close it all down, fire the employees and scrap the tooling.
    Vae Victis

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    • #32
      broadside
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 1522

      Even once the ammo starts becoming available, everyone is going to hoard it up. I know I will when I can. So the shortage for the average shooter will be even longer.

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      • #33
        vino68
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 1622

        Yeah, this is old news. And reloading components are now affected by supply chain issues.
        But seriously, the daily wire has problems with rushing to publish and creditability over all.
        They are mostly an opinion site.

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        • #34
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19752

          Originally posted by CWL
          I understand that, however, if you've got a shop set-up to manufacture millions of rounds a day and the govt. contract ends, you have to find another customer -or close it all down, fire the employees and scrap the tooling.
          Olin hasn't done that in the past. They aren't going to scrap the tooling because it belongs to Lake City, lol.

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          • #35
            Scratch705
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 12530

            Originally posted by CWL
            I understand that, however, if you've got a shop set-up to manufacture millions of rounds a day and the govt. contract ends, you have to find another customer -or close it all down, fire the employees and scrap the tooling.
            why would government contract ever end for ammo?

            plus, i'm sure they can sell them to other NATO countries.
            Originally posted by leelaw
            Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
            Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
            Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
            Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
            Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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            • #36
              kurac
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 2917

              Lots of gun shops are having a difficult time finding anything they can get in to sell, so you have to place orders with lots of different manufacturers and distributors just to increase you chances of getting somthing. If demands tanks, then they can always cancel unfulfilled orders so when Trump gets re-elected, I expect things to get back to normal pretty quick unless the left tries to start some kind of civil war, then what you have right now is what you have.
              www.culinagrips.com
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              • #37
                The Tiger
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1989

                Should we be buying stock in ammo companies?
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                • #38
                  The War Wagon
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10294




                  Well, DUHHHHHH!

                  Get crackin'!!!
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                  • #39
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19752

                    Originally posted by Scratch705
                    why would government contract ever end for ammo?

                    plus, i'm sure they can sell them to other NATO countries.
                    Because we aren't shooting up Iraqistan like before. Ammo use by our military has gone way down in the last few years.

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                    • #40
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 18991

                      We were warned a couple of year ago. I listened and stocked up. I'm set for ammo.

                      You snooze, you loose.

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                      • #41
                        naz
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2020
                        • 3108

                        Originally posted by HKAllTheThings
                        The ‘learn to reload’ folks haven’t noticed that bulk primers are nowhere to be found.

                        They’re waiting for primers...
                        Just my $0.02 but “waiting around” for something to be handed to them is the problem.

                        SPP and LPP are out there to be purchased in the usual 1k-5k packs for $0.03 a primer. Just need to be really fast to buy them they show up in stock

                        (My orders from yesterday all got shipping notices, so hopefully I won’t be eating my words with some unforeseen cancellations)

                        At the range this past weekend, few were picking up their brass.

                        It’s almost like there’s a subset of people that just want to complain online about things happening to them, rather than take actions to get what they want

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                        • #42
                          HKAllTheThings
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 1313

                          Ammo manufacturers are in a different spot than you. They have 500K+ primers on order since March that aren't being filled.

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                          • #43
                            naz
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 3108

                            Originally posted by HKAllTheThings
                            Ammo manufacturers are in a different spot than you. They have 500K+ primers on order since March that aren't being filled.
                            Right. I’m only looking for and buying qualities that are 5% of that “commercial” order

                            But my point was the people being suggested to “learn to reload” are not ammo manufacturers.

                            They are private individuals who could transition from complaining about lack of ammo in boxes on shelves they can buy, to sourcing components for their use
                            Last edited by naz; 10-08-2020, 10:21 AM.

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                            • #44
                              slayer61
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1402

                              I think what naz is saying is
                              "quit *****ing about it here & get out & look for some primers. They're out there."
                              ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
                              Paul

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                              • #45
                                HOGDOG1955
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 2401

                                went to turners last week and they had tons of federal 556. it was in 400 round cans priced at $399.00. so after tax its over a buck a round.

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