Trouble :(

[SCVlongstroke]

I don’t think there was any trouble before it became documented online.

[smittty]

He’s broke at the moment.

He can’t remember.

Does he use drugs?

[kurac]

If they had been used in a crime and a law enforcement has them, he would have heard from some agency about them by now. He should still report them stolen now, without delay.

[cannon]

If they were in his name all he has to do is report them today like he just found out. with he did.

[DrewN]

He needs to report.
He discovered today they are missing.
"Thinks" it must of been years ago but actually does not know when stolen.



If stolen before July 1 2017 than gets a pass.



Not sure if they can stack each lower as first, second, third violation if all stolen at same time?
Goes from infraction to misdemeanor.

How does this not violate your 5th? You realize you f-ed up and might be in legal jeopardy, they can't require you to implicate yourself surely?

[GW]

Lots of guys have so much stuff that they lose track of where everything is.

Lowers aren’t something you always look at or for....he apparently hid them away for a rainy day.


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Seriously?
The very first thing I would do after a burglary of my home is take a full inventory of my firearms, This guy suspected the house sitter, who had the run of his house for so long as the burglar That should have set off all sorts of alarms in his head. If he really thought the house sitter was skeevy enough to rob him, how could he not suspect that the guy spent his time searching everywhere in his house for valuables?
Fishy indeed.

[FalconLair]

i surely wouldn't remember every firearm i have if there was a burglary - i do have a list of all my firearms i purchased and that list is updated and emailed to myself every time i buy a new firearm - that gives me a saved email of all my firearms, which include make, model and serial number

of course that's only going to help me if i suspect something has been stolen or is missing - if i didn't know it's missing it would never get reported

[Monterey Gun]

Seriously?
The very first thing I would do after a burglary of my home is take a full inventory of my firearms, This guy suspected the house sitter, who had the run of his house for so long as the burglar That should have set off all sorts of alarms in his head. If he really thought the house sitter was skeevy enough to rob him, how could he not suspect that the guy spent his time searching everywhere in his house for valuables?
Fishy indeed.

Seriously. I don't see how this wouldn't be a priority. Everything else is just stuff you probably won't get back. Firearms can carry serious repercussions. Nothing about this situation seems correct...And here's a pro-tip, if you can't remember everything you've got, make a itemized list and laminate it. Then you can use a grease pencil to mark off things as you take an inventory.

[divingin]

Not sure if they can stack each lower as first, second, third violation if all stolen at same time?
Goes from infraction to misdemeanor.

I doubt it. At face value, it appears that the sentence stacking occurs for separate, recurring offenses. This would be a single failure to report a theft of multiple items (though I suspect that wouldn't apply either, as he just discovered they were missing.)

I'd advise him to report them as missing to the authorities (whoever took the initial theft report would be the first contact, I'd guess.) But get them listed as no longer in possession, just in case something does happen with them.

[IVC]

How did he not knoww they were stolen though? Not being dismissive but curious.

Same as socks - do you notice a pair missing? Some of us have more guns than socks...

[IVC]

There are two dates that are relevant in this case: (1) when was the gun stolen relative to the reporting law going into effect, and (2) when did he "know or reasonably should have known" they were stolen.

If the purchase was prior to the law going into effect, a DA couldn't prove the date the lowers were stolen and there is no prosecution. If the purchase was after the law went into effect, the question becomes about the date he knew - it's straightforward for a defense attorney to counter the "should have known" part for something such as a lower, which is usually in some remote place and is never used. Unless, of course, there is a written record such as this thread, but even then it would have to be the person writing himself, not a "friend" writing about it...

I would say that he is likely safe from prosecution if there is no additional documentation, but he might want to report the lowers stolen. Easier to report than to have them show up in a crime, both of which would cause a DA to look into the situation.

[IVC]

My frustration with these types of laws is that they victimize the person twice - once when the property is stolen and the second time when they are on the hook for reporting.

Imagine if we had "rape reporting laws" where if the victim didn't report it in a certain amount of time, they could be prosecuted for not reporting it. Kavanaugh confirmation would look completely ridiculous if a DA prosecuted the woman making claims because she failed to report it on time... (even if it happened, which it didn't).

[SarcoBlaster]

I smell fish.

Wearing one of these by any chance? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1652285

[Donny1]

Wearing one of these by any chance? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1652285

That's just wrong, thank you.

[ScottsBad]

I'd tell him to move out of California now.

If you don't live in Commiefornia anymore are they going to come after you? Can they come after you?