Stupid Rangemaster Rules

[ghilligan]

IF I AM CHANGING MY TARGET IN MY LANE THE BULLETS WILL WIZZ RIGHT PAST ME IN THE OTHER LANES!

Ah, you must be talking about the range at Spenceville.

It's a good thing there are some big rocks to hide behind if you don't make it back to the firing line before a new arrival pulls up and starts firing.

Rules?
Common sense?

That's for whimps and Communists!

[AregularGuy]

Pretty standard to place rifle on "SAFE", lock and clear rifle, when Cease-Fire is called. Not sure what the hub-bub is about there. The other business about being to the side of the rifle, not sure I follow what you are saying there..

[polygunner]

What that means is that they open the range "HOT". Come in, set up your shooting bench and get your target ready. Switch to cease fire, inspect the firearms on the bench to make sure they are safe and then send people down range to put out targets.

Range is not HOT, I was told by two RO's that the range is in a cease fire condition, yet the allow shooters to approach the bench.

If the range was HOT then shooting would be allowed, it's not.

Send shooters down range first thing with no equipment on the benches.
It's a cease fire after all.

It's obviously safer to have the targets posted with no rifles on the benches.

Just saying the operation could be a bit more consistent and safer if only in that one instance.

PG

[AregularGuy]

Range is not HOT, I was told by two RO's that the range is in a cease fire condition, yet the allow shooters to approach the bench.

If the range was HOT then shooting would be allowed, it's not.

Send shooters down range first thing with no equipment on the benches.
It's a cease fire after all.

It's obviously safer to have the targets posted with no rifles on the benches.

Just saying the operation could be a bit more consistent and safer if only in that one instance.

PG

Then do you have everyone pull their rifles from the bench each time people go down range to check targets? At the start of the day you approach the bench and stage your gear. Everyone steps away and rifles checked. Then get the all clear to head down range and no one approaches benches. What is the issue?

[SmokeTheClay]

I imagine OP isn't alone. I am concerned that this sort of behavior becomes a bad exprerience for noobs. It can be intimidating when they come across an RM on a power trip and conclude that he represents the gun culture at large. There is a right way and a wrong way to approach the situation. Most I've come across are helpful and willing to teach.

Yep, this guy was on a power trip. He was even showing a new hire how to do things so he had his extra “bossy” attitude going. Not good for newcomers. He was also telling me the wrong way to hold my rifle which would have made managing recoil with a rifle difficult. If I didn’t know better, his “rules” would have caused me to have poor control over my group sizes which could be frustrating for someone new.

You sure showed him a thing or two. And you schooled the other RSO as well. Attaboy, you go.

Certain shooters are magnets for extra RSO attention...you need to step back and figure out why you were singled out for the mark of the day...the answer should be easy.

You are totally wrong. I know the other RO. He knows his stuff. I’ve been going to this range for many years and am a member.

As for getting attention from the RO, your point is stupid.

I spent about 3 hours to shoot 50 shots through my magnetospeed. Maybe my shooting so quickly got his attention...yea.

Pretty standard to place rifle on "SAFE", lock and clear rifle, when Cease-Fire is called. Not sure what the hub-bub is about there. The other business about being to the side of the rifle, not sure I follow what you are saying there..

Been shooting this rifle at the same place for 3+ years and I’ve never had anyone mention the safety. Did you read that I was using a bolt action rifle?

He wanted my body to be at a V angle with the rifle

[polygunner]

What that means is that they open the range "HOT". Come in, set up your shooting bench and get your target ready. Switch to cease fire, inspect the firearms on the bench to make sure they are safe and then send people down range to put out targets.

Range is not HOT, I was told by two RO's that the range is in a cease fire condition, yet the allow shooters to approach the bench.

If the range was HOT then shooting would be allowed, it's not.

Send shooters down range first thing with no equipment on the benches.
It's a cease fire after all.

It's obviously safer to have the targets posted with no rifles on the benches.

Just saying the operation could be a bit more consistent and safer if only in that one instance.

PG

[billped]

As long as the rules are consistent across ROs at a range, I'm good with it.

Their house, their rules. Don't like them, go elsewhere.

What would be the alternative, a governmental agency to define and control rules and license ROs?

Each of the ranges I frequent, Reeds in Santa Clara for indoor and Los Altos for outdoor, are amazingly consistent and reasonable.

[ABR]

I broke my ankle at USI years ago doing exactly what you described by stepping in a gopher hole. There are reasons USI has the rules they have.

They didn't have to worry about me suing them as I was an instructor there at the time, But it could have been ugly for them If it was someone else.

Bet that hurt like hell

[Full Clip]

Short bus or not, they are the range master. You are not.

Being a Johnson and comparing a rifle to a 1911 isn't a slick way to look smart. If you actually said that to the RM, I can see where the real problem is.

#Truth
And their house, their rules.
Don't like it? Leave.

[edgerly779]

No mags in firearms till at bench ever. Same rule for events if you walk around with mag in firearm you will be told to remove. If your worried about dust/dirt put a paper towel in mag well. When I opened target range in Van nuys same rule 30 years ago.

[bohoki]

rules should be simple and posted i do not like unwritten rules

[aklon]

Went to the range today. Been going there for years and one of the rangemasters was a complete idiot.

He wanted the safety ON when I was away from the rifle. Mag was out and bolt was back. I asked what do you do with 1911s when the mag is out and the slide is back. No response. MORON

then later this idiot wanted me to be to the side of my rifle because the butt of my rifle was a few inches behind the back of the bench. So he did NOT want me straight behind the rifle to manage recoil. IDIOT

Another rangemaster put him in his place after I explained. What a moron.

Sounds like that middle aged grey haired *****le that used to be at Richmond. The guy once told me I couldn't move my gun off the bench because he didn't know if it was loaded even though it was inside a locked case. He'd make rules as he went along to impress you with his authorit-ah.

[mooner760HD]

Short bus or not, they are the range master. You are not.

Being a Johnson and comparing a rifle to a 1911 isn't a slick way to look smart. If you actually said that to the RM, I can see where the real problem is.

Lol give a person a title and now they have authority!

[foxtrotuniformlima]

Another thread where someone complains about an establishment but doesn't name it. Why?

How about starting the first post with "While at Range ABC ......"

How hard is that?

[splithoof]

No mags in firearms till at bench ever. Same rule for events if you walk around with mag in firearm you will be told to remove. If your worried about dust/dirt put a paper towel in mag well. When I opened target range in Van nuys same rule 30 years ago.