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  • #46
    dave85620
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 690

    What about pump shotguns. Can it be unlocked in the trunk with shells on the stock in a shell holder or even shells in the tube but with the chamber empty? Does a gun sock count as a "case" if the shotgun is being transported in the backseat?
    Last edited by dave85620; 06-02-2020, 7:18 PM.

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    • #47
      OCEquestrian
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2017
      • 6789

      Originally posted by dave85620
      What about pump shotguns. Can it be unlocked in the trunk with shells on the stock in a shell holder or even shells in the tube but with the chamber empty? Does a gun sock count as a "case" if the shotgun is being transported in the backseat?
      Nope.. shells in the tube makes it a loaded firearm and cant legally be carries in the vehicle. Only a loaded pistol CCW by someone with a license can be in car loaded and legal.

      Thats why I like my M1 carbine with loaded mags in pouch on stock.
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      • #48
        SC1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 555

        I have always bought hatchback cars to fit dogs. So I have to have locked cases for AR and pistol.

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        • #49
          golfish
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2013
          • 10070

          Originally posted by dave85620
          What about pump shotguns. Can it be unlocked in the trunk with shells on the stock in a shell holder or even shells in the tube but with the chamber empty? Does a gun sock count as a "case" if the shotgun is being transported in the backseat?
          attached in any manner to, the firearm...including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm.. Therefore, carrying a loaded magazine separate from the handgun is NOT Prohibited under the CA Penal Code. As long as the loaded magazine is not inserted into the gun, you are carrying/transporting an unloaded weapon.
          Last edited by golfish; 06-02-2020, 8:44 PM.
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          • #50
            k1dude
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 13223

            The question shouldn't be "Can I have a rifle in the trunk?"

            The question should be "Why don't you have a rifle in the trunk?"

            Especially right now with the riots and looting.
            "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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            • #51
              2Aon2wheels
              Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 486

              If you are worried about the riots, you won't be able to get to your trunk should you get surrounded. think about it.
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              • #52
                OCEquestrian
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2017
                • 6789

                Originally posted by 2Aon2wheels
                If you are worried about the riots, you won't be able to get to your trunk should you get surrounded. think about it.
                The ONLY reason to have a handgun in a high threat situation is to fight your way to your rifle...
                "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                • #53
                  dave85620
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 690

                  Do you guys think a pump shotgun is a wise choice, or should I be carrying a rifle..

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                  • #54
                    dave85620
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 690

                    Originally posted by golfish
                    attached in any manner to, the firearm...including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm.. Therefore, carrying a loaded magazine separate from the handgun is NOT Prohibited under the CA Penal Code. As long as the loaded magazine is not inserted into the gun, you are carrying/transporting an unloaded weapon.
                    That's confusing to me. Is a shotgun with one of those stock shell.holders filled with shells considered loaded because it's "attached"?

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                    • #55
                      joeypounds
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 453

                      Originally posted by dave85620
                      Do you guys think a pump shotgun is a wise choice, or should I be carrying a rifle..

                      There is a reason they are called Riot Guns.


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                      • #56
                        golfish
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 10070

                        Originally posted by dave85620
                        That's confusing to me. Is a shotgun with one of those stock shell.holders filled with shells considered loaded because it's "attached"?
                        1.1. "Loaded"

                        A firearm is "loaded" when there is:

                        an unexpended cartridge or shell, consisting of a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet or shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm...including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm.. Therefore, carrying a loaded magazine separate from the handgun is NOT Prohibited under the CA Penal Code. As long as the loaded magazine is not inserted into the gun, you are carrying/transporting an unloaded weapon.

                        I understand, I loose interest after the first sentence most of the time. However this is a pretty easy one to figure out...
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                        • #57
                          Librarian
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 44627

                          Originally posted by dave85620
                          That's confusing to me. Is a shotgun with one of those stock shell.holders filled with shells considered loaded because it's "attached"?
                          Originally posted by golfish
                          1.1. "Loaded"

                          A firearm is "loaded" when there is:

                          an unexpended cartridge or shell, consisting of a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet or shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm...including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm.. Therefore, carrying a loaded magazine separate from the handgun is NOT Prohibited under the CA Penal Code. As long as the loaded magazine is not inserted into the gun, you are carrying/transporting an unloaded weapon.

                          I understand, I loose interest after the first sentence most of the time. However this is a pretty easy one to figure out...
                          Golfish, you missed a step.

                          The step is the California case People v Clark, where exactly that configuration was ruled legal - in 1996.

                          See the wiki article on "Loaded", http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._in_California

                          (The Legislature is not obligated to remove no-longer-in-effect bits of code, nor annotate the code with references to court cases; I believe West's Annotated California Codes does have that. You may find a set in the Reference section of the main branch of your county library - I found it in the Pleasant Hill library.)
                          Last edited by Librarian; 06-02-2020, 11:59 PM.
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                          • #58
                            golfish
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 10070

                            My head is spinning..
                            It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                            Happiness is a warm gun.

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                            • #59
                              dave85620
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 690

                              Originally posted by Librarian
                              Golfish, you missed a step.

                              The step is the California case People v Clark, where exactly that configuration was ruled legal - in 1996.

                              See the wiki article on "Loaded", http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._in_California

                              (The Legislature is not obligated to remove no-longer-in-effect bits of code, nor annotate the code with references to court cases; I believe West's Annotated California Codes does have that. You may find a set in the Reference section of the main branch of your county library - I found it in the Pleasant Hill library.)
                              Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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                              • #60
                                Librarian
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                                • Oct 2005
                                • 44627

                                Originally posted by golfish
                                My head is spinning..
                                Just another day through the California looking glass.
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