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  • hitthecoast
    Banned
    • Dec 2018
    • 341

    Need auto loader 12ga recommendations

    What can you recommend for an auto loader 12ga? Looking for something similar to a Benelli M4 or mag-fed saiga that accepts high capacity magazines. Is it easier to extend the magazine capacity on an M4 or or mag fed shotgun? I read something stating 922r prohibits extension of an M4-type shotgun beyond 10 rounds. Not sure if that is true.
  • #2
    Duck Killer
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2296

    Benelli

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    • #3
      Jet Setter
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2012
      • 5348

      Get a Benelli Super Sport and enjoy it. Probably the only Benelli I would recommend
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      1. PW 800+ Hydro Multispeed (just the hydraulic unit that also works with Spolar press)
      2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
      3. Hornady 366 (12 gauge)

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      • #4
        AreWeFree
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 4558

        Remington Versamax tactical is pretty nice. Uses same gas/operating system as benelli m4 (their patent expired) and out of the box is well spec'd, doesn't really need any changes.

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        • #5
          Master_Prestige
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2019
          • 1016

          1301.

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          • #6
            ja308
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2009
            • 12660

            The Tennessee man who won the Knob Creek Jungle Walk competition used a Remington 1100 with side saddle carrier and extended mag tube.
            The event uses #4 or 00 buck loads, so the Remington has a strong action.

            Bennellis are a good choice if you are inclined to spend lots of money for one.

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            • #7
              BrokerB
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5336

              Get some style...A5
              Beans and Bullets

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              • #8
                BrokerB
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5336

                Real style will be Rhodesian A5 )
                Beans and Bullets

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                • #9
                  rodralig
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4262

                  1301


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                  WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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                  • #10
                    CandG
                    Spent $299 for this text!
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 16970

                    I don't think it's possible to get a Saiga 12 in CA anymore. Per the DOJ AW regulations published in 2017, semi-auto shotguns must have fixed magazines, which means the magazine must not be detachable without disassembling the action. As far as I know, there's no way to do that and still be able to reload with any reasonable quickness.

                    So a tube-fed is probably going to be your best bet.

                    I love my M4. You can get a 7-shell tube (allowing you to load 9 shells total, google "carrier loading") and there are ways to work around the 922r issue by replacing some other parts with US-made parts, if you don't want to risk being the only individual in US history to actually be charged with a 922r violation

                    My home defense M4 has 9 shells of 00-buck loaded, and a 6-shell sidesaddle with slugs. I hate to be that guy who says you don't need a "high capacity" magazine, but if 9 shells of 00-buck (which is kind of like 81 rounds of 9mm) fired as fast as you can pull the trigger doesn't stop the threat, then I don't think more having a bigger magazine would make any difference.
                    Last edited by CandG; 04-23-2020, 1:06 PM.
                    Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                    • #11
                      FeuerFrei
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 7455

                      Originally posted by hitthecoast
                      What can you recommend for an auto loader 12ga? Looking for something similar to a Benelli M4 or mag-fed saiga that accepts high capacity magazines. Is it easier to extend the magazine capacity on an M4 or or mag fed shotgun? I read something stating 922r prohibits extension of an M4-type shotgun beyond 10 rounds. Not sure if that is true.
                      930 Tactical - 8 Shot SPX


                      American made.
                      Not as much $$ as the Italian gun.
                      Really a reliable good piece. Mine is years old and no issues yet.
                      No bragging points for ownership. Sorry.

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                      • #12
                        enorbit3
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2655

                        I was gonna suggest a Mossberg 930. I have the spx model and it had a few hiccups with low power birdshot. Otherwise it runs great.
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                        • #13
                          SomeGuy75
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 1405

                          Stoeger M3k. Similar to the M4 for 1/3rd the price. It even takes some of the same aftermarket parts. Hell you could buy a M3k and send it to MOA precision for custom pimping and it would STILL be cheaper than the Benelli.

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30242

                            Originally posted by hitthecoast
                            What can you recommend for an auto loader 12ga? Looking for something similar to a Benelli M4 or mag-fed saiga that accepts high capacity magazines. Is it easier to extend the magazine capacity on an M4 or or mag fed shotgun? I read something stating 922r prohibits extension of an M4-type shotgun beyond 10 rounds. Not sure if that is true.
                            Under Federal laws/regulations...

                            Shotguns that are imported into the USA can not have a magazine capacity that is greater than 5 rounds.
                            ^In order to legally increase the capacity of imported shotguns to be greater than 5 rounds, they must contain 10 or less foreign made parts.

                            Under CA laws/regulations...

                            CA large capacity magazine laws prohibits extending the magazine capacity of a fixed tubular magazine on a semi-auto shotgun to be more than 10 rounds.
                            ^Also, applies to bolt-action shotguns and pump-action shotguns.
                            ~Lever-action shotguns are exempt from this and can legally have their capacity extended to 11+ rounds.

                            CA assault weapons laws prohibits a semi-auto shotgun from operating without a fixed magazine.
                            ^In order to be CA legal; shotguns that do not have fixed magazines must operate as a bolt-action, lever-action, or pump-action.
                            Last edited by Quiet; 04-23-2020, 2:42 PM.
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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #15
                              dozer wright
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2764

                              I have a F@n Slp Competition. It's a bad mother. Found it cheap new . Bought a 30 inch barrel for sporting clays. This thing runs on anything. The shop I bought it from said the couldnt sell it because of the color.
                              Last edited by dozer wright; 04-23-2020, 3:03 PM.

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