West End Gun Club

[sass2924]

Start as a limited member and meet other members. You will get access to the main range f, sat and sun from 8-4. Either way get your name on the waiting listed. It costs nothing and you’ll have plenty of time to figure the process out.

[mikeinla]

I attend the IDPA event once a month. There are members who also attend that will sign for you as long as you are being safe and not being a pain the ***.

My signature came at the second event cause at the first event, I focus on trying to learn as much as I could about IDPA.

Old fog, new tricks and all that.

Also get a limited membership, lots of full members shoot at the main range from time to time, and all the folks at West End are great people.

What dates are the IDPA matches held?

[CamW]

IDPA matches are held on the 4th Sunday. Sign ups start at 8am, safety briefing at 8:30.
If you miss the safety briefing , you don't shoot.

[ocabj]

What dates are the IDPA matches held?

https://www.wegc.org/wordpress/?page_id=2033

[Jeepergeo]

It absolutely is ONE OF A KIND! It's a privately owned canyon with rifle, shotgun and pistol bays, a .22 rimfire range and 600 yd rifle range. All about an hour drive from most of LA/OC.

Now the 24/7 thing is a BIT misleading as there is no lighting there for shooting after dark so.... unless you have night vision equipment or bring all your own lighting, you really can't shoot at night. And... being out in Lytle canyon, it is oppressively hot in the summer (July-Sept) and can be quite cold in the winter as well. But... as far as ranges go in So. Cal. it is pretty much unmatched (if you are a full member)

The the summer heat and winter wind keeps the coastal riff-raff away.

[Rcjackrabbit]

That’s a big NO on raising the dues. I just got home from a trip to WEGC. I am a full member. It is not as good as you think. The shooting sports hog the back bays every weekend. Paying members can get what’s left over from 2:00-5:00 before it gets dark. In essence, non paying gun gamers end up being supported by those of us who pay. Those bays are open on the week days. But, most people can’t take advantage of that because they work. Several bays are closed right now. So, you can drive an hour from OC and not get a place to shoot.

The back bays should only be for full members. But, the club leadership is corrupt.

[yacko]

I personally think that maybe it's time to increase the dues to shake out people who are members but don't really use the facility. The cheaper it is the easier it is to justify keeping it even though you don't really use it.

You sound EXACTLY like those democraps that want to increase DROS fees, tax ammo, tax gun sales.

Just raise the prices to exclude people from participating due to financial difficulty.

To that.... I say, and the horse you rode in on.

Do you realize how many members are retired on fixed income?

But you want to cut them out, for people who can and are willing to pay more... Just like those Demoncrats raising DROS, AMMO TAX, GUN TAX....

Well... on the other hand.... If you are a full member.... you got the financial statement.... the club aint hurting for money.... Doesn't actually *need* more money....

But you want to cast people out for a 'pay to play' scheme so only yuppies can afford to be members?

I really hope you aren't an actual member- I'd be seriously disappointed to have people like you as a member of OUR club.

I suppose on the other hand.... maybe we could 'raffle' memberships.... I could propose this to the board. I could 'sell' my membership for who ever pays the most?

Full membership for sale- starting bid $10,000 US Dollars.

[trigger945]

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[ysr_racer]

I have my "elevation" ceremony next week after being on the wait list for over 2 years!

By far and away my favorite place to shoot these days.

Today you are a fountain pen

(You may not be old enough to know what I'm talking about, but your grandpa will )

[ocabj]

Now the 24/7 thing is a BIT misleading as there is no lighting there for shooting after dark so.... unless you have night vision equipment or bring all your own lighting, you really can't shoot at night. And... being out in Lytle canyon, it is oppressively hot in the summer (July-Sept) and can be quite cold in the winter as well. But... as far as ranges go in So. Cal. it is pretty much unmatched (if you are a full member)

There's nothing misleading about 24/7 access. If you want to shoot at 0100, then you can go shoot at 0100. There's a few guys who shoot before dawn using battery powered work lights and leave after the sun comes up. I occasionally go to shoot after sundown to play ninja and shoot using weapon mounted lights. The Milwaukee M18 battery powered lights are great. I have one that I use when I get to the range pre-dawn and need lights to setup (either for personal shooting or for setting up matches).

Summers are fine. Just shoot before 1100 and you're good. Sunrise is around 0600 throughout the summer, so you can get there at 0500, get setup and shooting and leave by 0900 before it gets really hot. That's what I usually do and that's the one thing about the summer months that's good, is that you can shoot earlier if you are reliant on the sunlight.

[Rcjackrabbit]

Pretty stupid that paying members have to get there at 5:00am so they can shoot while non members use the club during normal hours.

[ocabj]

Pretty stupid that paying members have to get there at 5:00am so they can shoot while non members use the club during normal hours.

Uhm what? Who said paying members have to get there at 0500? People choose to do that because they like to shoot early.

[CAL.BAR]

Today you are a fountain pen

(You may not be old enough to know what I'm talking about, but your grandpa will )

Yeah, I actually have and use a fountain pen and I still didn't get THAT one.

[OCEquestrian]

Haha I’m in favor of increased dues cause 240/year for 24/7 access is quite the deal

I’ve not heard of another range like this in SoCal... is West End one of a kind?


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Yes, sadly it is now the only club of its kind (24/7 access) in the LA basin. There are 1660 regular members. Some dont use the club at all but simply maintain membership. An increase in dues will, as all price increases in all things, cause those who dont use the club to rationalize their ownership and possible drop out of membership to make room for those who will use the club (just basic economics). It will also provide more money to further develop the facilities. The club leadership has increased the facilities greatly in the last couple years... doubling the number of shooting bays, realigning the rifle range to imp[rove long range shooting, realigning the range to get the shotgun range back on track etc..

It absolutely is ONE OF A KIND! It's a privately owned canyon with rifle, shotgun and pistol bays, a .22 rimfire range and 600 yd rifle range. All about an hour drive from most of LA/OC.

Now the 24/7 thing is a BIT misleading as there is no lighting there for shooting after dark so.... unless you have night vision equipment or bring all your own lighting, you really can't shoot at night. And... being out in Lytle canyon, it is oppressively hot in the summer (July-Sept) and can be quite cold in the winter as well. But... as far as ranges go in So. Cal. it is pretty much unmatched (if you are a full member)

The club is actually in Meyer's canyon. You can shoot all night as long as you bring illumination and can identify the target you are shooting at on the range. There is no running water or electricity at this time. Port-a-potties are the only facilities.. some GF's /wives may not like that. I train at night occasionally it is so peaceful out there once the shooting stops, i will usual stay and relax a bit before heading back out to the hustle and jostle of So. Calif....

That’s a big NO on raising the dues. I just got home from a trip to WEGC. I am a full member. It is not as good as you think. The shooting sports hog the back bays every weekend. Paying members can get what’s left over from 2:00-5:00 before it gets dark. In essence, non paying gun gamers end up being supported by those of us who pay. Those bays are open on the week days. But, most people can’t take advantage of that because they work. Several bays are closed right now. So, you can drive an hour from OC and not get a place to shoot.

The back bays should only be for full members. But, the club leadership is corrupt.

- You are plain wrong, particularly with all the new bays that have been constructed in the last year. Being a Sales Engineer, I am surprised you have not examined the in depth study the club has done on bay usage on weekends.
- I am also surprised that you are unaware of the stated mission of the club in its articles of incorporation and By-laws (see below);
- You failed to disclose in your rant thatboth members and non-members bay match fees to the club (so who is non paying?) and those nonmembers at club matches pay much higher match fees than members, providing significant revenue used to maintain and improve the club for the benefit of its members. I personally think that non members who are non NRA members should be paying even higher match fees, for that its worth.
- If you think the leadership is corrupt why dont you 1) attend board meetings to highlight that? 2) Run for a position on the board or 3) QUIT?

From the Articles of Incorporation “The purpose for which this corporation is formed is: For the encouragement of organized rifle, pistol and shotgun shooting among citizens of the United States, residents in our area, with a view toward a better knowledge on the part of citizens in the safe and proper care of firearms, as well as improved marksmanship, on a non-profit basis. As a further object, to encourage the development of the characteristics of honesty, good fellowship, self-discipline, team play and self-reliance as essentials of good sportsmanship.”

From our ByLaws: WEST END GUN CLUB, INC. (hereinafter referred to as the Club) is a non-profit California Corporation (501 (c)(7) Social Club) dedicated to encouraging organized rifle, pistol and shotgun shooting among citizens of the United States, improving the citizens’ knowledge of safe handling and proper care of firearms, improving marksmanship and developing the characteristics of honesty, good sportsmanship, self discipline and self reliance as essential to good citizenship. Further, the Club shall achieve these goals by, among other means, regularly hosting and sponsoring as many different educational shooting and organized shooting related events as possible”.

[OCEquestrian]

You sound EXACTLY like those democraps that want to increase DROS fees, tax ammo, tax gun sales.

I think that members who dont use the club are keeping other shooters who would from having access.

Just raise the prices to exclude people from participating due to financial difficulty.

Anyone who is "using the club" is spending far more on guns and ammo than the $20/month that the membership currently costs.

To that.... I say, and the horse you rode in on.

Happily a change in dues is something the membership will have to vote on. You are entitled to your opinion of me as well as your vote should the matter ever come up.

Do you realize how many members are retired on fixed income?

No, How many are on a fixed income? You do know that there is a Senior Discount on Regular membership?

But you want to cut them out, for people who can and are willing to pay more... Just like those Demoncrats raising DROS, AMMO TAX, GUN TAX....

Nice rant, hitting all the hot buttons, but that is not my intent. My intent is to open the membership up to those who will use the facilities.

Well... on the other hand.... If you are a full member.... you got the financial statement.... the club aint hurting for money.... Doesn't actually *need* more money....

I take it you have not looked at the club budget (went out with the balance sheet / income statement) to see what that money is to be used for inthe coming year?

But you want to cast people out for a 'pay to play' scheme so only yuppies can afford to be members?

You have no idea what I want as mentioned above...your assumptions are groundless.


I really hope you aren't an actual member- I'd be seriously disappointed to have people like you as a member of OUR club.

I am a regular member, for over 20 years, and have volunteered many hours and had a significant role in making sure that you have a club to be a member of. What have YOU DONE for the club?

I suppose on the other hand.... maybe we could 'raffle' memberships.... I could propose this to the board. I could 'sell' my membership for who ever pays the most?

If you knew anything about corporate law and IRS regulations you would know how ridiculous your emotional comment really is.

Full membership for sale- starting bid $10,000 US Dollars.

For all the opinions and criticisms, your rather light on the facts and rational thinking. Attend a general meeting, ask questions and educate yourself.