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  • engclose
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 30

    Church security team

    After yesterday's Texas incident, what are the legalities of being on an armed church security team?
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    FalconLair
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 3961

    from what i've gathered these guys were parishioners, who, with the church's blessing, were also armed - i don't believe they were paid, volunteered their services, probably trained on their own too

    i don't think it matters from a legal stand point - if you find yourself defending your life or the life of others you're within your rights, no matter where you are

    the real issue is the civil repercussions - im sure if someone's family member could make a case they'd be suing you, the church, the parking valet, whomever they could
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      Kestryll
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      • Oct 2005
      • 21601

      CRPA offers classes on Church security:



      As well as a write up on the legality of carrying in Church:

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      • #4
        ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by engclose
        After yesterday's Texas incident, what are the legalities of being on an armed church security team?
        The 3 churches we attend have armed people.
        Free Chapel in Ivine has uniformed armed security with side arms.

        The Whittier church has an armed pastor who showed me his CCW and the parking lot has vehicles with Cal Guns license frames and NRA/ GOA logo's.

        The Costa Mesa church has an armed sheriff deputy and I suspect other's could armed too , as everyone Ive talked with is a Trump supporter !

        To guess at an answer to you're question. I would think if the church officers and Preacher know you are armed I would say no problem.

        Naturally I will guess not on getting to and from church armed. This might be a problem in this state, that does not respect or acknkowdge self defense !

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        • #5
          mshill
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 4467

          I don't do church security. I do personal security, whether or not I am at church.
          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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          • #6
            Yodaman
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 2749

            Originally posted by mshill
            I don't do church security. I do personal security, whether or not I am at church.

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            • #7
              SCVlongstroke
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 725

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              • #8
                Notpc
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 3772

                Many churches use schools to hold services in, this complicates things here in California.
                "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
                Roy Batty

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                • #9
                  SloChicken
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4533

                  Originally posted by Notpc
                  Many churches use schools to hold services in, this complicates things here in California.
                  And,

                  California ...
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                  Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                  To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                  • #10
                    Erion929
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 4706

                    I sold two smaller guns over a year ago....G42 (.380) and PPS M2 (9mm) and in talking to the buyer, discovered he was buying for the “church security team”.

                    Orange County, FWIW.


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                    • #11
                      r8dr rider
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1983

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                      • #12
                        P5Ret
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 6385

                        There have been a few discussions on this in the past. It is a regulation and legal minefield when there is a official church "security team" in Ca.

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                        • #13
                          SloChicken
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4533

                          Originally posted by P5Ret
                          There have been a few discussions on this in the past. It is a regulation and legal minefield when there is a official church "security team" in Ca.
                          In California ...

                          Sad.
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                          Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                          To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                          • #14
                            splithoof
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2015
                            • 5948

                            As was once pointed out to me, there are potential legal problems if a church leases out a part of its facility to a school; likely it makes no difference if the "school" is actually in session that day, so the presence of citizens who are otherwise legally armed may be a no-no, depending on the actual law. I "think" retired/off-duty LE may be exempt, but I'll leave it to those who know more to comment further.
                            Yet another example of the state of California working to kill off those who practice religion, or those wishing to survive the actions of the very criminals the state welcomes with glee.

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                            • #15
                              Rcjackrabbit
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 971

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