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  • #16
    anonymouscuban
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 1440

    Originally posted by big red
    when my liberal friends complain about guns i ask them what would they do between the time they call 911 and the cops arrive which could be fifteen or twenty minutes. If the criminal is armed with an illegal gun and they have nothing but a steak knife are the cops going to find dead bodies or are the cops going to arrive to find live victims who were fighting back if the family had a gun . The name of the game is survival. They never have a come back remark but i have seen a couple of women get that look on their face like they may have married the wrong wimp. A man in today's high crime state (california) who is not willing to own a gun to protect his family needs to be shamed in public debate.
    I've asked a similar question. I ask about a home invasion by multiple intruders who tie up everyone in the house and then rape the wife and daughter. I ask them how they could live with themselves after allowing something like that to happen when simply owning a firearm could have prevented it.

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    • #17
      colossians323
      Crusader for the truth!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 21637

      Socialist gun ownership will not change a socialists mind
      LIVE FREE OR DIE!

      M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

      Originally posted by M. Sage
      I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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      • #18
        Hunt
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 4833

        We need lessons from the Sun Tzu, it teaches you MUST have thorough knowledge of the enemy and yourself. OK, that means we will never win politically here in the a State of CA unless we eventually stack the deck in our favor. To evidence this , I will share some intel from when I was personally in the heart of the Gunmageddon petition drive a few years ago. Our effort was given an impossible schedule to meet the deadlines to challenge the new laws. Even with those deadlines we had an EPIC showing of gun owners, in California we have plenty of gun owners. It was impressive to see the lines to sign the petition, I organized an event at the Glock Store we got about 2.5K signatures in a few hours. So what’s the problem in CA and what does this have to do with the Sun Tzu lessons? “Know your enemy”, the entire State’s politics and bureaucracies are infiltrated with anti gun operatives, except the non coastal counties. This anti gun demographic / voting block overwhelms the dispersed gun owners voting block. OK, how do we defeat this? Two ways, first at the micro local level, as taught by the Sun Tzu, when faced with overwhelming forces, infiltrate and operate from within. This is what San Diego County Gun Owners Association is doing, to include making new gun owners. The Second effort needs to be a very strong and overwhelming campaign at the national level, Trump is doing a great job by appointing Constitutionalist judges. I say the most important effort needs to be at the National level, we are still very strong there.
        Last edited by Hunt; 12-13-2019, 8:20 AM.
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        • #19
          Epaphroditus
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 4888

          Reframe the gun rights movement into a broader civil rights movement. Don't isolate gun rights rights from civil rights (divide and conquer is their tactic) present a United and comprehensive arguement in favor of all civil rights.
          CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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          • #20
            M1NM
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2011
            • 7966

            Just getting people to buy guns will not really help much. Most of those buyers won't be "real" gun people and not take ownership and use seriously. This could lead to more problems than solutions when their gun leaves their sock drawer in their kids backpack or crooks pocket. They also will be the first ones to jump ship and turn them in showing a "willingness of the public" for confiscation.

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