HELP! DOJ requesting pictures when registering firearms

[Forced_2_Cali]

Hi all,

New to CA and as such I am registering my firearms with DOJ. Prior to moving here, I spent a ton of time researching the laws and even joined Calguns in late 2018, referred by a friend, to attain additional perspective. I submitted all paperwork with $19 fee. Just received a letter from DOJ, see quote below, requesting pictures of some firearms. The firearms in question are, Walther P22 (PPQ version), AR Multi-Cal (setup as AR-15 featureless), and Benelli M4 LE (adjustable stock was fixed/locked in place). I am still acquainting myself with the unconstitutional laws of CA, but this request by the DOJ seemed odd as I thought it is the responsibility of the owner to comply with the laws. Being new to the state, I may be just paranoid, but wanted to ask the community. If I do comply with the DOJ's request am I registering the Multi-Cal AR as an AW, may have no choice? Why the request for images on the other ones? I would appreciate your expertise and insight. Thank you!

I plan to call the DOJ to inquire on this further to understand the request for detail pictures and to confirm I am not registering any of the firearms as an AW.

"Please provide pictures for your firearm below. Please ensure they are clear and full-length pictures of both sides of the firearm and includes at least one close up that shows the serial number, magazine release, make and model. Please resubmit your CRIS Reporting Form with the pictures to expedite processing."

[BrassCase]

Not uncommon in Commiefornia, welcome to our state! I had to submit pictures last year when I registered some 80% builds. I would suggest that you bite the bullet (jacketed) and send them their pictures and close it out.

[Tere_Hanges]

The registration period for "AWs" has long since passed so it is impossible for you to register your AR as an "AW". You would simply be registering it as a Semiauto rifle. I suspect DOJ wants a picture of it to see if it is in an illegal "AW" configuration or if it is "featureless" or "fixed mag". If it is in an illegal configuration they will probably send the goon squad out to confiscate it and could charge you with a felony. I would consult with a competent firearms specific attorney if you are not sure what you are doing. This is just the tip of the DOJ pushing themselves up your rectum. Hope moving to CA was worth it.

[IVC]

One more vote on double checking with an attorney. The only purpose of photos would be to gain incriminating evidence against you in case something is wrong. There is no requirement to send pictures (unless something changed recently).

[Dirk Tungsten]

There is no requirement to send pictures (unless something changed recently).

THIS. This is the first thing the OP needs to tell the DOJ.

[Sousuke]

Hi OP,

If this was the new residence registration submittal, like others have said, there is no photo requirement.

A few people who had submitted registration for imported curio relics had the same request. They responded by saying photos are not required and that was the end of it.

Did you submit digitally?

[Forced_2_Cali]

Hi OP,

If this was the new residence registration submittal, like others have said, there is no photo requirement.

A few people who had submitted registration for imported curio relics had the same request. They responded by saying photos are not required and that was the end of it.

Did you submit digitally?

Digital was not an option via https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991. I sent in physical paperwork as advised on this site.

[Ora Serrata]

FYI. California version of P22 has loctited threaded barrel cap. In California the threaded barrel on a pistol qualifies it as an assault weapon.

[tehDiceman]

THIS. This is the first thing the OP needs to tell the DOJ.

Kinda surprised this wasn't the first response imo. DO NEVER send pictures for a featureless volreg/initial reporting of importation of firearm.

[vino68]

Dibs on your guns.

[Forced_2_Cali]

FYI. California version of P22 has loctited threaded barrel cap. In California the threaded barrel on a pistol qualifies it as an assault weapon.

Thanks for the comment. My P22 version is the non-threaded one. I have a VP9 Tactical (threaded). Had to buy a new barrel (non-threaded of course) to comply. I'm just reminded of the sadness I felt when converting all my firearms.

[Redeyedrider]

One more vote on double checking with an attorney. The only purpose of photos would be to gain incriminating evidence against you in case something is wrong. There is no requirement to send pictures (unless something changed recently).

Send them a registered letter asking if providing pictures, for registration purposes, is a legal requirement. Also, ask for the section of law that provides for that requirement.

or

Simply let them know that photos are not required by law.

My guess is you can tell them to pound sand......

[Den60]

Dibs on your guns.

DOJ gets dibs first in this situation.

[Marauder2003]

Thanks for the comment. My P22 version is the non-threaded one. I have a VP9 Tactical (threaded). Had to buy a new barrel (non-threaded of course) to comply. I'm just reminded of the sadness I felt when converting all my firearms.

A question for the group. Is the now detached threaded barrel legal in CA if not mounted? Just wondering how pissant DOJ is.

[Forced_2_Cali]

A question for the group. Is the now detached threaded barrel legal in CA if not mounted? Just wondering how pissant DOJ is.

It's legal to own a threaded handgun barrel as long as it is not installed and/or mounted to the firearm.