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  • Swagman00
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 4149

    Livermore range

    // Talking about Livermore Rod and Gun Club, https://lprg.org/
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    // Librarian


    Originally posted by Gowking
    I would imagine they will have something similar to Livermore.
    Livermore requires standing for pistol and sitting for rifles/large caliber. It's only 40 lanes total with 11 pistol and 29 combo. I think the last eight or so years they were required to lower the range side ceiling due to the damage to ranch land on the other side of the hill. Plenty of clowns still hit the steel awning regardless...but it keeps the lead on range.

    Looks like it's much larger and will accommodate plenty if they aim to. It also looks like they won't have any extended length lanes and I could really use some 200yd practice.
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  • #2
    Sputnik
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2199

    Originally posted by Gowking
    I would imagine they will have something similar to Livermore.
    So movable...shoot 25, 50, 75, 100 all from the same bench; just move the target holder.

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    • #3
      Psychbiker
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 1671

      Originally posted by Swagman00
      Livermore requires standing for pistol and sitting for rifles/large caliber. It's only 40 lanes total with 11 pistol and 29 combo. Withink the last eight or so years they were required to lower the rage side ceiling due to the damage to ranch land on the other side. Plenty of clowns still hit the steel awning regardless...but it keeps the lead on range.

      Looks like it's much larger and will accommodate plenty if they aim to. It also looks like they won't have any extended length lanes and I could really use some 200yd practice.
      And at Livermore if you shoot pistol standing then want to shoot rifle you gotta pay again. USI better not do that. It was great at USI paying and being able to shoot both sides.

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      • #4
        jtv3062
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2749

        Originally posted by Psychbiker
        And at Livermore if you shoot pistol standing then want to shoot rifle you gotta pay again. USI better not do that. It was great at USI paying and being able to shoot both sides.
        You cant be serious. I was willing to give them another chance soon to develop some non lead hunting rounds but not now.
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        • #5
          testpress
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 270

          Originally posted by Psychbiker
          And at Livermore if you shoot pistol standing then want to shoot rifle you gotta pay again. USI better not do that. It was great at USI paying and being able to shoot both sides.
          They must not like you because I shoot there all the time and move between rifle and pistol every time with a one time fee of $20.
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          • #6
            Psychbiker
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 1671

            Originally posted by testpress
            They must not like you because I shoot there all the time and move between rifle and pistol every time with a one time fee of $20.
            Not on the weekends or busy times. Says on their website.

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            • #7
              Tractionavant
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 275

              My son and I were just at Livermore & shot both sides, one charge...
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              • #8
                jtv3062
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 2749

                So if it's on their webpage and some people don't get charged for both pistol and rifle, is it a "goodguy" discount?
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                • #9
                  BrassCase
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3186

                  Originally posted by Tractionavant
                  My son and I were just at Livermore & shot both sides, one charge...
                  You didn't get lucky. That is how Livermore works. You just need to let the cashier know when you want to switch sides so he/she can keep track of available lanes and assign a new one to you. If they don't have a wait you can shoot there, on both sides, all day for the one fee.
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                  I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                  • #10
                    mlgs00
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 438

                    As an RSO at Livermore, I can say that we haven't enforced the 2 hour time limit in the last 2 years. Nor, in that time, have we charged a second fee to switch from one side of the range to the other, despite what it says on the website. When USI and then Chabot closed down, Livermore was so overwhelmed with new shooters that there were often 20 to 30 people on wait lists to get a lane. Time limits and not allowing people to jump from one range to the other ahead of others waiting for lanes were implemented to try to accommodate the large number of shooters. For whatever reason, a lot of people aren't shooting as much now as back then and there is not currently a need for those limitations.
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                    • #11
                      AAShooter
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2010
                      • 7188

                      Originally posted by mlgs00
                      As an RSO at Livermore, I can say that we haven't enforced the 2 hour time limit in the last 2 years. Nor, in that time, have we charged a second fee to switch from one side of the range to the other, despite what it says on the website. When USI and then Chabot closed down, Livermore was so overwhelmed with new shooters that there were often 20 to 30 people on wait lists to get a lane. Time limits and not allowing people to jump from one range to the other ahead of others waiting for lanes were implemented to try to accommodate the large number of shooters. For whatever reason, a lot of people aren't shooting as much now as back then and there is not currently a need for those limitations.
                      Glad to hear. Charging people per side was always a bad choice.

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                      • #12
                        BrassCase
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3186

                        Originally posted by sgt1372
                        The following is taken directly from Livermore's website here: https://lprg.org/ranges/pistol-rifle-range/

                        "Modern Rifle and Pistol Ranges

                        We now have 2 ranges open which offer a safe place to enjoy shooting your firearm and hone your marksmanship skills.
                        The two ranges, a Pistol Only range and a Combination range are treated as independent ranges When you sign in you will be asked to choose which range you wish to shoot on.



                        So, does this mean they only charge the additional fee for changing sides when it's "busy" (whatever that means) or does the charge apply whenever you want to change sides?
                        Well, if you don't believe us come out on a Friday when I RSO, introduce yourself and have a fun day shooting with us.
                        I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                        • #13
                          model63
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 310

                          Originally posted by mlgs00
                          For whatever reason, a lot of people aren't shooting as much now as back then and there is not currently a need for those limitations.
                          Are you still getting same rate of first time or new shooters that are signing up or has that dropped off as well?
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                          • #14
                            BrassCase
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3186

                            Originally posted by model63
                            Are you still getting same rate of first time or new shooters that are signing up or has that dropped off as well?
                            Our business picked up tremendously after USI closed and some again with Chabot closing. We did have waits on Saturday and Sunday mornings before both the other ranges closed, we had 29 shooting lanes that were combination rifle/pistol. Now we have the 29 lanes plus an additional 12 for standing pistol. Business was off last year and even off more this year. The peak was probably 2017. We brought the other 12 pistol lanes on line in response to the USI closing to help alleviate the wait, that was our youth shooting area.

                            Most of the people that I talk with at the range that are confused are the more casual shooters who don't have time, knowledge or concern to keep up with the news on the gun laws. They just hear the headlines and think they can't buy ammo or that the gun they have is illegal or might be so they stay home.

                            Just look at the number of gun stores that have been closing up!
                            I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                            • #15
                              BrassCase
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 3186

                              Originally posted by sgt1372
                              If so, I suggest that you remove the quoted language from your website.
                              We keep it as a fallback in case we need it.
                              I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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