CCW Transporting Ammunition

[God Bless America]

:doh: my bad.

[Humboldt Leatherneck]

Leaving Crescent City with Yreka as a destination requires part of the trip to be outside California. Would a CCW holder in both California and Oregon be in violation of the new laws regarding transportation of ammo into California with a loaded handgun as well as a full spare magazine?

OP it sounds as if you are taking Hwy 199 out of Crescent City over towards Medford, and then down I-5 to Yreka.

I also have a Ca CCW and an Oregon Non-Resident CHL. In my latest travels I have carried more ammunition and firearms than that out of and back into California, and I have had no issues. My Ca CCW listed weapons do not have available anywhere any original or after market magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds each.

In Oregon, I like to carry my .357 Magnum revolver which is not on my Ca CCW License, plus I usually have a .22 rifle and either a .30 caliber rifle or 12 gauge shotgun during my travels between the states. So I have more than just a handful of ammunition with me then...

I do have the invoice print out sheets from when I had ordered ammunition off of the internet prior to December 2017 (Prop 63) with the receipts for the ammunition in my possession.

[NoHeavyHitter]

I believe once you bring a 11+ rd magazine out if California you can't bring it back in.

I don't believe that. Which law says that? You're not "importing" the magazine if you owned it when you left with it (at least "at this moment" anyway).

[Mayor McRifle]

I don't believe that. Which law says that? You're not "importing" the magazine if you owned it when you left with it (at least "at this moment" anyway).

[Librarian]

I don't believe that. Which law says that? You're not "importing" the magazine if you owned it when you left with it (at least "at this moment" anyway).

Believe it.

There used to be an exception for taking pre-2000 LCMs out of state and bringing them back, so the Legislature knows how to do that.

But that provision was eliminated, leaving only PC 32310(a) -

32310.

(a) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2,

any person in this state who

manufactures or causes to be manufactured,

imports into the state,

keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or
who gives, lends, buys, or receives any large-capacity magazine

is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.

No exception.

[floogy]

How is "import" in regards to interstate transportation defined? If you move and bring an off roster handgun into CA, you're importing it. If you drive to AZ to shoot then bring it back, you're not. Same with vehicles. Leaving CA for the weekend doesn't involve "importing" your car and all your personal items back into the state.

My point is that depending on how "import" is defined, merely transporting the items back to the state would not be illegal.

[Dvrjon]

Possession or lack thereof of a California CCW is not an exemption from any of the new regulations on ammunition.

The rules are the same either way.

Here is a good description: https://crpa.org/resources/crpa-webinars/

CRPA Information Bulletin

[Dvrjon]

How is "import" in regards to interstate transportation defined? If you move and bring an off roster handgun into CA, you're importing it. If you drive to AZ to shoot then bring it back, you're not. [color=blue][B]back to the state would not be illegal.

[Pitchfork]

Thanks everyone but going back to my original question. Forget about the magazine capacity and the authorized CCW etc. Would it be legal to bring some of my own bullets back across the state line either in my pocket or in a box or whatever?

[Dvrjon]

Thanks everyone but going back to my original question. Forget about the magazine capacity and the authorized CCW etc. Would it be legal to bring some of my own bullets back across the state line either in my pocket or in a box or whatever?

Posts 2 and 5 did that.

30314. (a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312

[Pitchfork]

I guess the real answer is to prove the ammunition wasn't purchased outside the state if it became an issue.

[Humboldt Leatherneck]

I guess the real answer is to prove the ammunition wasn't purchased outside the state if it became an issue.

I answered your question with my recent and practical experiences about taking multiple firearms and ammunition in and out of California in post #17.

Added - When I had posted that I have the invoices in my possession, I meant scanned and stored in my computer external hard drive along with the originals filed away, from when I had ordered thousands of rounds at a time multiple times long before the December 2017 deadline. I do not have a receipt for the several boxes of ammunition with me in my wallet or in the ammo can(s) while traveling...

I am near Eureka, so it just about 100 miles to the border from here, which makes for an easy day trip to Brookings or Cave Junction, Oregon and beyond.

Plus you had asked that same question about carrying ammunition in and out of California over a year ago in this thread...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1440060

You asked in post #27 - and were answered in post #35

[Mayor McRifle]

Plus you had asked that same question about carrying ammunition in and out of California over a year ago in this thread...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1440060

You asked in post #27 - and were answered in post #35

[Dvrjon]

I guess the real answer is to prove the ammunition wasn't purchased outside the state if it became an issue.

[Dvrjon]

Plus you had asked that same question about carrying ammunition in and out of California over a year ago in this thread...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1440060

You asked in post #27 - and were answered in post #35