Last order (For me)

[simonp]

Do Brownells and LAX ammo have similar announcement? Is this limited to Target Sport and Freedom Munitions or all online vendors?

Freedom munitions has already sent out an email stating that they will no longer be selling to California thanks to the change coming 7/1

[psun786]

So what is next? Make a trip to AZ and hauling $10k worth of ammo back once a year? If that is the case, I will not be paying my share of sale tax!

[psun786]

Freedom munitions has already sent out an email stating that they will no longer be selling to California thanks to the change coming 7/1

I think this is just a temporary restriction placed by vendors until they had the time to consult with their lawyers or DOJ.

The part in question is who is responsible for the background check of C&R/FFL3 or LEO orders. For orders shipped to a full service FFL, the local FFL has to do a background check upon delivery of the ammo to customer.

Once they figure that out, everything will be back to normal.

[broadside]

I think this is just a temporary restriction placed by vendors until they had the time to consult with their lawyers or DOJ.

The part in question is who is responsible for the background check of C&R/FFL3 or LEO orders. For orders shipped to a full service FFL, the local FFL has to do a background check upon delivery of the ammo to customer.

Once they figure that out, everything will be back to normal.

One can only hope its temporary. I need to up my reloading game or start planning road trips

[SkyHawk]

I think this is just a temporary restriction placed by vendors until they had the time to consult with their lawyers or DOJ.

The part in question is who is responsible for the background check of C&R/FFL3 or LEO orders. For orders shipped to a full service FFL, the local FFL has to do a background check upon delivery of the ammo to customer.

Once they figure that out, everything will be back to normal.

There is no background check for LEO or 03/COE when importing ammo. So there is nothing to figure out.

Conducting a background check only applies to licensed ammunition vendors in the state when conducting sales/transfers in the state.

And even for transfers/purchases in the state - COE holders don't have to do a background check, they only have to do a $1 COE verification:

11 CCR 4305
(a) A purchaser or transferee is authorized to purchase ammunition if they hold a current Certificate of Eligibility, subsequent to verification by the Department.
(1) A purchaser or transferee may request, through an ammunition vendor, the Department to conduct a COE Verification, to determine if the purchaser or transferee qualifies for this authorization.
(b) As authorized by Penal Code section 30370, subdivision (e), the fee for COE verification is $1.00.
(c) The ammunition vendor shall collect the ammunition purchaser’s or transferee’s name, date of birth, current address, and driver license or other government identification number, in the manner described in Penal Code section 28180, telephone number, and COE number, and enter the information into the DES website.
(d) Upon the Department’s completion of the COE Verification, the Department shall then update the purchaser’s or transferee’s DES record to instruct the ammunition vendor to approve or reject the ammunition purchase or transfer.

[pklin1297]

Brownells already stopped direct online purchase of ammo before, that's why I went with TargetSportsUSA.

[SkyHawk]

Brownells already stopped direct online purchase of ammo before, that's why I went with TargetSportsUSA.

Brownells it still shipping ammo, they are my go-to supplier. There may have been a very brief lapse while they reconfigured their workflow to deal with it, but they have been sending me ammo on the regular for quite a while now.

[Skip_Dog]

Freaking Ca.

[psun786]

Brownells it still shipping ammo, they are my go-to supplier. There may have been a very brief lapse while they reconfigured their workflow to deal with it, but they have been sending me ammo on the regular for quite a while now.

I can confirm Brownells accept online orders. They price is better than Target Sports with promo code. The only hassle is that you need to have your FFL submit a copy of their license every time.


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[boopiejones]

Brownells it still shipping ammo, they are my go-to supplier. There may have been a very brief lapse while they reconfigured their workflow to deal with it, but they have been sending me ammo on the regular for quite a while now.

Brownells ships to ffl03/coe or just ffl01?

[psun786]

There is no background check for LEO or 03/COE when importing ammo. So there is nothing to figure out.

Conducting a background check only applies to licensed ammunition vendors in the state when conducting sales/transfers in the state.

And even for transfers/purchases in the state - COE holders don't have to do a background check, they only have to do a $1 COE verification:

It is general consensus that nothing changes with LEO / FFL3 ordering after Prop 63 but apparently DOJ doesn't agree and has their own interpretation. From what they said to Brownells, it looks like they don't think FFL3 is exempted, or maybe just not from buying online?

[Dirk Tungsten]

I just spoke with Target Sports. The customer . They are trying to fight that right now. She asked me to send any links to the specific section of the penal code that exempts us from the law to sales@targetsportsusa.com

I have sent the link.

Innnnnnnnteresting. Tagged to see if more comes of this or if it's FUD on TSUSA's behalf.

[boopiejones]

I just used the chat feature on brownells website and they confirmed to me that they will still ship direct to CA residents that have an ffl03 on file.

[psun786]

Innnnnnnnteresting. Tagged to see if more comes of this or if it's FUD on TSUSA's behalf.

At first I thought it may be marketing scheme for them to squeeze more sales into this month. But then Freedommunitions is doing the same.... humm

[drifts1]

And even for transfers/purchases in the state - COE holders don't have to do a background check, they only have to do a $1 COE verification:

What's the actual difference between paying $1 for the COE verification vs paying $1 for the background check? A dollar is a dollar, no?