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  • #31
    Canucky
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 4265

    Grandpa gave guns to uncle. Who did the uncle wish to have them? Guns hidden in house?
    OP how old are you? Why not talk with gramma and the boyfriend? Good luck.

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    • #32
      still919
      Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 458

      I'd definitely watch this movie.

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      • #33
        langss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 929

        Originally posted by anonymouscuban
        Man. These situations sure do sound terrible. Family members fighting over possessions of a deceased loved one.

        Wish you the best OP. Not sure how old you are or if you have your own family but learn from this. Establish a living trust so you family doesn't go through the same.



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        HaHaHa.....you never met my Wife's three Sisters. I could tell you stories that would make your teeth hurt.

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        • #34
          Canucky
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 4265

          Originally posted by still919
          I'd definitely watch this movie.
          Remember the episode in Better Call Saul? When his brother destroys the house looking for some electronic device?

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          • #35
            67Cuda
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 1717

            So grandma, uncle and his lover lived in the same house?
            I'd hate to think where your gay uncles lover has hidden them.
            Evidently to well for Sherlock Holmes to find them.
            Originally posted by ivanimal
            People that call other member stupid get time off.
            So much for being honest.

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            • #36
              anonymouscuban
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 1440

              Originally posted by langss
              HaHaHa.....you never met my Wife's three Sisters. I could tell you stories that would make your teeth hurt.
              My mom is still alive but my father passed about 8 years ago. I had a great relationship with my dad. My brother wasn't as close. When my dad died, my mother told me that he wanted me to have some of his really treasured things. I told my mom to give them to my brother and not to tell him about my dads wishes. I already knew that my brother wanted them. They meant more to him because he didn't have the memories I had. I also didn't want to risk a fight especially with my mother grieving.



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              • #37
                B.J.F.
                Veteran Member
                • May 2006
                • 2986

                OP, if you want them and your grandmother wants you to have them then she is going to have to tell them to return them to her.

                You probably should get an attorney and have him mention the PC or Statute instead of doing so yourself.

                Hiring a attorney, could be quick and easy or long drawn out and expensive to fight. Depending on what the collection is valued at or sentimental value... it may or may not be worth the cost to fight it.

                He can also claim there are no guns in his possession and it’s your word vs theirs if there is no paper trail.

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                • #38
                  FalconLair
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3974

                  if you really want them maybe an offer to buy them?

                  or do you want them for free?

                  legalities aside, do you know who your uncle wanted to have them after he passed?
                  Originally posted by Barang
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                  Originally posted by JagerDog
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                  • #39
                    SnWnMe
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 6897

                    It's like an episode of Dateline without the murder.
                    Frank Da Tank

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                    • #40
                      FresnoRob
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 2133

                      If I read this mess correctly.
                      Grandfather dies, wishes uncle to have guns. Uncle takes guns. Guns never legally transferred.
                      Uncle dies, spouse or SO wants guns and hides them.

                      If the guns were never legally transferred Grandmother owns the guns.

                      She calls PD and says uncles spouse or SO took and hid the guns. ( Her Guns )

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                      • #41
                        langss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 929

                        Originally posted by anonymouscuban
                        My mom is still alive but my father passed about 8 years ago. I had a great relationship with my dad. My brother wasn't as close. When my dad died, my mother told me that he wanted me to have some of his really treasured things. I told my mom to give them to my brother and not to tell him about my dads wishes. I already knew that my brother wanted them. They meant more to him because he didn't have the memories I had. I also didn't want to risk a fight especially with my mother grieving.



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                        I don't want to hijack the thread, suffice to say you took the "High Road", and they took the way low road. I'm afraid my Wife is permanently damaged and will never recover from the whole experience.

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                        • #42
                          OlderThanDirt
                          FUBAR
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 5975

                          We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                          Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                          • #43
                            FalconLair
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 3974

                            Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                            This sounds like an episode of the 1960s soap Peyton Place. Lots of drama and intrigue, but not much substance. Kind of like the Kardashians of gun owners.

                            - Lots of illegal transfers going on.
                            - No estate planning.
                            - Verbal promises that aren’t worth squat.
                            - No reasonable conversations between the parties involved.

                            You could call the popo to help resolve this issue and nobody involved will get any of the guns. Or, you could sit down and have an adult chat with granny and your uncle’s spouse about the sentimental value of the firearms and make a reasonable monetary offer to settle the issue.
                            i agree with this but i think the OP wants the guns for free even though his grandfather didn't want him to have them - now OP's probably talked grandma into seeing things his way 4 years later so it's turning into a "lets figure out a way to get them back"

                            these firearms may have never been registered to grandpa either, if they're that old - proving ownership could be problematic - at this point what would stop the Uncles spouse from selling the guns - i don't think you need to even prove ownership when selling a firearm
                            Last edited by FalconLair; 05-15-2019, 11:53 AM.
                            Originally posted by Barang
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                            • #44
                              FalconLair
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 3974

                              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                              If he is a user of Marijuana, he cannot legally be in possession of any firearms or ammunition.
                              Originally posted by gruller65
                              Correct so if he refuses to let me have them then what
                              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                              Depends on how far you want to push it. You can always threaten to report him to the local PD.
                              in which case, if they decide to act on that information they'll confiscate all the firearms and good luck to the OP having any chance of getting them after that!!
                              Best guess is they'll end up destroyed

                              telling the spouse he can't legally keep the firearms due to his mj use is a great bargaining chip but i wouldn't expect him to just give them up for free
                              Originally posted by Barang
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                              Originally posted by JagerDog
                              I hate you FalconLair!
                              Originally Posted by JTROKS
                              I hate you FalconLair! I double hate you if you get it before Christmas!
                              Originally posted by gcvt
                              They hate you FalconLair
                              Originally posted by Greta
                              HOW DARE YOU!! I hate you FalconLair

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                              • #45
                                gruller65
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2018
                                • 39

                                Originally posted by Redeyedrider
                                FIFY



                                The spouse.... In this case, your Uncle's husband is next in line for the weapons.

                                Since all you have to stand on is a "verbal" agreement, this is what you're left with. If you take them it absolutely will be theft.



                                Sounds like they went through the proper chain of inheritance. Grandfather>Grandmother>Uncle (most)>Uncle's spouse
                                Never had paperwork done though the law as I know is transfers have to be done through paperwork not just handed over

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