Sacramento FFL for Transfer

[586L-Frame]

Shooting Shack Guns on Laguna Blvd, last day was September 30, 2018. Sure miss them.

[loyalarms]

I thought Shootin Shack closed. Been losing so many in the area in such a short amount of time.

Loyal Arms is active on the forums here I believe

Yes, we are active here. We just got very busy lately. We have all of our policies online so no surprises.

If out of state purchases, please make sure items are sent from FFL. Only time we can accept private party shipment is for interstate intrafamilial transfers.

We are also running a few promotions today in the commercial section.

Cheers.

[Scottie15]

Kilroy's in West Sac does transfers too. Super fast paperwork guys/gal makes for a painless in-and-out, even though you still have to go twice.

[fatfreadiescat]

ANYWHERE but Ammo Depot on Folsom Blvd.

[Mandingo27]

"The gun range" in north highlands is pretty cool

[edgerly779]

So loyalarms makes up there own rules on shipping. No law says it must come from FFL. Good to know.

[Califpatriot]

If out of state purchases, please make sure items are sent from FFL.

Out of curiosity, why is that?

[loyalarms]

So loyalarms makes up there own rules on shipping. No law says it must come from FFL. Good to know.

Before I go into explaining what I said earlier, please do correct me if I were wrong. I will research and learn. Thanks in advance.

The following is a list of "transfer" scenarios in regards to interstate shipment of firearms into CA.

Scenario A: If a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL for a CA private party buyer, it is considered a PPT. However, PPT across state-lines is not allowed by, at least, Federal laws. Per 18 USC 922 (a) makes it unlawful for unlicensed individuals to sell a gun to unlicensed individuals who do not live in the same state as the seller. Sending of the firearm is fine, just not the interstate PPT.

Scenario B: if a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL for interstate intrafamiliar transfer, it would be fine per 18 USC 922 (a)(5)(a).

Scenario C: if a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL to transfer back to the same person for whatever reasons such as hunting or competition, it would be fine as well per 18 USC 922 (a)(5)(b).

Per my understanding, if a FFL send to a FFL then it's no longer a PPT transaction; on the other hand, if non CA private party sold the firearm to a CA FFL, then it would be fine for CA FFL resell it to CA private party buyer.

Cheers.

[B.J.F.]

Except they refuse to accept any handgun from out of state that is CAPABLE of taking a magazine greater than 10 rounds. Ask me how I know...

[kcheung2]

So loyalarms makes up there own rules on shipping. No law says it must come from FFL. Good to know.

Why do you even care, Mr Canoga Park?

[flyer898]

+1 for Left Coast

Left Coast Tactical on Mather Field Road. 916/368-7372. Great customer service.

Great bunch!

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

The Gun Range has some other, more pressing matter to attend to at the moment. Be patient if you choose to utilize them for the transfer.

Cliffhanger

[BBShot]

"Kilroy's in West Sac does transfers too. Super fast paperwork guys/gal makes for a painless in-and-out, even though you still have to go twice."

Unfortunately, Kilroy's in West Sac is closing this month.

[code_blue]

Before I go into explaining what I said earlier, please do correct me if I were wrong. I will research and learn. Thanks in advance.

The following is a list of "transfer" scenarios in regards to interstate shipment of firearms into CA.

Scenario A: If a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL for a CA private party buyer, it is considered a PPT. However, PPT across state-lines is not allowed by, at least, Federal laws. Per 18 USC 922 (a) makes it unlawful for unlicensed individuals to sell a gun to unlicensed individuals who do not live in the same state as the seller. Sending of the firearm is fine, just not the interstate PPT.

Scenario B: if a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL for interstate intrafamiliar transfer, it would be fine per 18 USC 922 (a)(5)(a).

Scenario C: if a non CA private party send in the firearm directly to a CA FFL to transfer back to the same person for whatever reasons such as hunting or competition, it would be fine as well per 18 USC 922 (a)(5)(b).

Per my understanding, if a FFL send to a FFL then it's no longer a PPT transaction; on the other hand, if non CA private party sold the firearm to a CA FFL, then it would be fine for CA FFL resell it to CA private party buyer.

Cheers.

Out of state transfers must be shipped to an FFL in the state of the recipient by federal law and will be considered as an FFL/Dealer transfer to the recipient by CA law. There is no such thing as PPT across state lines.

PPT is specifically a CA term for transfer between two CA residents performing a face to face transfer where a CA based FFL is facilitating. The key is FTF. If a CA seller in Socal shipped the firearm to a Norcal buyer, it would still need to be shipped to an FFL and will be considered as a dealer transfer, so roster would apply (generally).

There is no law requiring the private owner sender to use an FFL, but it is common for recipient FFLs (especially in CA) to require that a sending FFL is used for CYA purposes. The private seller is limited to the vendor of shipment depending on the firearm, so it might be easier for them to use an FFL also.

Basically, your FFL, your rules on this part.