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  • #31
    Rifle ronin
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 1196

    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    Which means most pinned folding or collapsible stocks can be unpinned on registered AW's.
    It also means that there is obviously no restrictions on reconfiguring of assault weapons beyond the illegal DOJ regulations in regards to the registration process much the chagrin of those that would argue that an AW needs to stay in the configuration that it was when it was photographed for registration.
    So, can the doj prosecute on illegal regulations?
    I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

    Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
    (Non caps intended)

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    • #32
      Dirk Tungsten
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 2046

      Originally posted by Rifle ronin
      So, can the doj prosecute on illegal regulations?
      What? DOJ prosecute itself?

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      • #33
        Rifle ronin
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 1196

        Originally posted by Dirk Tungsten
        What? DOJ prosecute itself?
        No. They couldn't understand themselves.
        I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

        Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
        (Non caps intended)

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        • #34
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57170

          Originally posted by Rifle ronin
          So, can the doj prosecute on illegal regulations?
          You can not be arrested/charged for breaking a regulation.
          You have yo be arrested for breaking a law.
          Therefore, regulations need to have supporting laws.
          Laws are listed in the penal code, vehicle code, health & safety code etc...

          NOT having a supporting law makes a regulation illegal such as in the case of the requirement to retain the bullet button.
          Randall Rausch

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          • #35
            Rifle ronin
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 1196

            Well, the definition I found reads more punative:

            regulations. n. rules and administrative codes issued by governmental agencies at all levels, municipal, county, state and federal. Although they are not laws, regulations have the force of law, since they are adopted under authority granted by statutes, and often include penalties for violations.
            I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

            Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
            (Non caps intended)

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            • #36
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57170

              Originally posted by Rifle ronin
              Well, the definition I found reads more punative:

              regulations. n. rules and administrative codes issued by governmental agencies at all levels, municipal, county, state and federal. Although they are not laws, regulations have the force of law, since they are adopted under authority granted by statutes, and often include penalties for violations.
              What do you call a regulation which is adopted WITHOUT a statute to back it up?
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #37
                Rifle ronin
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 1196

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                What do you call a regulation which is adopted WITHOUT a statute to back it up?
                Laws created by agencies are called “regulations.” Regulations usually must be authorized by a statute, and are subordinate to statutes. However, they have the same legal force as statutes. Agencies are part of the executive branch of state and federal government, and thus are tasked with the execution of the law.
                Last edited by Rifle ronin; 05-02-2019, 1:34 PM.
                I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

                Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
                (Non caps intended)

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                • #38
                  God Bless America
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2014
                  • 5165

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  What do you call a regulation which is adopted WITHOUT a statute to back it up?
                  Ginned-up?

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                  • #39
                    Milsurp1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 3091

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                    • #40
                      Rifle ronin
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1196

                      So, basically, it can't be deemed illegal until it's tried in a court to deem it illegal.

                      And wait until it happens to clear all the red tape.
                      I dreamed of owning a (insert off roster gun here)...

                      Oh yeah....then the earth splits open with me on one side and the (off roster gun) on the other. Then appeared a large red-glowing pit with gavin newscum, diane frankenstein and governor "brown the drain" at the bottom of it, waving their pitchforks at me.
                      (Non caps intended)

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                      • #41
                        Mr. Beretta
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 6614

                        Originally posted by BigPimping
                        Now tell him to begin hoarding ammo for the next meltdown.

                        Wise advice...

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