Standard capacity mag question

[Rifle ronin]

Yet there was no such law passed that creates separate classes of AW's with separate rules.

The DOJ wrote in the regulations to keep the bullet buttons ON the newly registered AW's primarily because so many Calgunners posting that they were looking forward to removing them from newly registered AW's.
Had there not been years worth of people posting about that, we would not have that regulation.

The bright side of DOJ's illegal regulation is that it's not supported by law and will be low hanging fruit to get invalidated in court.
ALL AW's follow the same rules.
The illegal regulations create a mismatch between the earlier registered AW's from 1990 and 2001 and the recently 2017-2018 AW registrations.
If there's one thing that courts love to overturn, it's unequal protections in the law.

So, its calguns fault?

[SmallShark]

why are we still discussing this?

[riderr]

2) LEOs may be operating under the status quo and not appreciate or be aware of the fact that bullet buttons are no longer fixed mag. If so, you can be hassled, lose your property, and potentially need a lawyer

Decide your level of comfort and act accordingly.

If so, the department chief will be in big trouble with the court.

[riderr]

I don't think that is "the consensus." It is some peoples' opinion, and you all may end up being right, but I am not so sure.

OP, I would not and do not use hicap mags in my BBAWs. The legislature never intended that to be done.

YES the law was poorly written, but "poorly written" in our opinion is little if any protection against prosecution.

It is up to you to decide your tolerance for risk. Mine is low.

You can always ask those lawyers who give legal advice here on CG for their black-and-white opinion on the matter. Michel and Associates come to mind. There are a couple more.

Ask them to put their name on the advice.

Keep us posted.

You probably were out of touch recently, but Michel provided the legal opinion on the matter a few weeks back.

[Full Clip]

You probably were out of touch recently, but Michel provided the legal opinion on the matter a few weeks back.

Link please?

[ar15barrels]

So, its calguns fault?

Nope.
The users.

We write all these things on here and the DOJ reads them.
Then when they are sitting around in their "How to we screw the people" meetings, they see that everyone is excited about removing bullet buttons.
Guess how we get regulations against it...

[sigstroker]

There's no consensus required because there's not even a QUESTION that standard capacity magazines are legal in all registered assault weapons.
To think otherwise would require making up laws or regulations that simply don't exist.

Yeah, but this is calguns, where people do that like it's their job.

[riderr]

Link please?

https://crpa.org/news/blogs/crpa-alert-moving-forward-with-large-capacity-magazine-court-ordered-stay/

[BigPimping]

Now tell him to begin hoarding ammo for the next meltdown.

[God Bless America]

Do you think it's illegal to shorten a registered assault weapon so that it is between 26" and 30" overall length?

Not sure. Not having any weapons under 30", I never bothered to consider it in any depth.

[God Bless America]

There's no consensus required because there's not even a QUESTION that standard capacity magazines are legal in all registered assault weapons.

Sure there is. You don't have to agree with the question, for that question to exist.

[ar15barrels]

Sure there is. You don't have to agree with the question, for that question to exist.

The question is clearly answered by the lack of any specific prohibition against using standard capacity magazines in registered AW's.

Or perhaps you don't realize that freedom is a lack of prohibition?

[AtlasPRK]

Not sure. Not having any weapons under 30", I never bothered to consider it in any depth.

BBRAW FAQ from DOJ/Becerra:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs

#33: The owner should not shorten a rifle barrel below 16" or the overall length under 26" (Penal Code 33210 and Penal Code 17170).

[God Bless America]

BBRAW FAQ from DOJ/Becerra:

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regagunfaqs

#33: The owner should not shorten a rifle barrel below 16" or the overall length under 26" (Penal Code 33210 and Penal Code 17170).

Good news.

[ar15barrels]

Good news.

Which means most pinned folding or collapsible stocks can be unpinned on registered AW's.
It also means that there is obviously no restrictions on reconfiguring of assault weapons beyond the illegal DOJ regulations in regards to the registration process much the chagrin of those that would argue that an AW needs to stay in the configuration that it was when it was photographed for registration.